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Writing Styles: Setting

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Offline Kiva

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Writing Styles: Setting
« on: March 11, 2024, 10:21:01 PM »
Every story has a setting. Spiderman is set in New Your City. Lord of the Rings takes place in Middle Earth. The setting is the time, location and environment of your story. Choosing the setting of your story is critically important as your setting will be closely interwoven into the characters, plot and action of your story. How you create and use your setting can greatly enhance a fantastic fight tale. In general, there are two types of settings: Backdrop and Integral.

Backdrop Setting
This is the minimalist approach for keeping it simple. Your setting is very generic and not specific to time. You will not need to spend much time in its description. For instance, your entire fight story may entirely take place in a boxing ring. You might wish to provide a few useful details such as the grimy atmosphere, the smell of cigarette smoke, the rowdy fight crowd, but otherwise you can give readers’ imaginations a lot of leeway in filling in the rest of the scene. Perhaps you are writing an apartment style wrestling story where all the action occurs in an empty carpeted room. You might mention the feel of plush carpet between the toes. The action might include bodies slamming into dry walls causing cracks in the plaster, or the sensation of noses being smeared into the carpet, but lengthy passages of the room are not necessary. Backdrop settings are a good choice for stories where you want to focus more on characters and the action and the setting not need be very specific. An example of one of my stories is “Goodnight, Snowflake” a story about an older catfighter returning to a production company after 20 years to fight a troubled young woman. I intended it as a deeply psychological story that didn’t require an elaborate setting.

Integral Setting
This type of setting is important to creating context to your story, characters, conflict and action. It can give your story mood and atmosphere and help drive the action. Components of integral settings are location, environment and time.

Location: Where is your story geographically located? It may be a real or imaginary place. It could be very specific. My story, “My Little Sherry” mostly takes place in the Roxbury neighborhood in Boston.  The location may be somewhat less specific. Fyre’s Fight Journal is set in Texas, but the exact city is not revealed. I followed this approach with KFJ. It gives readers the Texas flavor of the stories without restricting their imaginations to a particular location. Locations may completely unspecified if it’s not important to the story (a beach, a backyard, a barn, etc.).
 
Environment: This is the immediate physical situation of your story. It is the most important, but most difficult aspect to write about your setting. The environment brings your location to life. The goal is to appeal to the readers senses, giving them the vision, sounds, feel and smell to the setting. The environment is the part of setting that is interwoven into the plot and action, creating mood and atmosphere. Is your story about a fight in an isolated abandoned warehouse? You would expect a foreboding atmosphere. Tell us about the poor lighting, the barren concrete floor, the broken windows, creaking pipes, musty odor, etc. Is it in a dive bar? Talk about the grimy floor, smell of stale beer, neon lights, smoky air, etc.

How does the environment effect the fight? Is it on a beach? The sun, waves, and sand getting in the hair, eyes, and mouth could be a factor. Do surrounding objects come into play during the fight? In KFJ Dance Mom Dust-Up, during a fight in a dance studio, elastic bands are used as whips and the balance barre becomes weaponized. The Junkyard by Jonica is perhaps the grittiest story I’ve read on FCF.

Setting can be used to reflect mood. In My Little Sherry, the dark and icy weather reflects Conner’s mental condition.
Finally, the setting can sometimes contrast with the action to add shock or highlight the stakes. My Waiting At The Door describes a typical lazy suburban Saturday afternoon with the ambience of lawn mowers, clouds, barbecues, etc. in sharp contrast to two moms engaging in a taboo grudge wrestling match in a backyard. In Dance Mom Dust Up, the innocence of a dance school for children clashes with two moms having a fight in an adjacent room during the kids’ dance lessons.

Time: Does your story take place during a specific year or at least period of time. You will need to make sure everything in your story is consistent with that time. It is easy to accidently create an anachronism (something inappropriate for that time. e.g. a character has a cell phone in a story about World War II).
Does your story occur during a specific time and place. Think of 1920’s Chicago, The Coliseum of ancient Rome, a peasant village under the reign of Charlemagne, England during Henry VIII. Historic pieces can be a lot of fun to write but require knowledge of the time and place you are writing about. For most of us, that might require considerable research, which is why I haven’t attempted it. The most historical story I’ve written here is Summer of ’77 where I tried to be true to 70s U.S. culture. Sinclairfan is the master of historical stories, having written numerous very impressive works. Ahnafights’ Wild West stories are exceptional.

My Advice: Writing settings to your story can be great fun but can be challenging. For beginners, I’d say first think about the fight you want to write about. Remember, this should be fun. The fight is the main course, so start with that. What kind of fight will it be and where will it occur? Backdrop setting is easier for beginners, but I wouldn’t want to limit anyone’s imagination. When you decide on your fight scene, work your story up to the fight and weave your setting into it. It can be difficult to decide how much or little space to devote to communicate your setting. I’ll start out with two recommendations. First, avoid lengthy paragraphs describing a location and environments. Many readers are turned off by long paragraphs. Second, you usually don’t need to describe your setting all at once. Spread it out, communicate more information as your story unfolds. Second, express the setting as experienced by the characters as much as possible. As they say, “Show, don’t tell”.

Compare these two paragraphs. Which do you like better?

The cattle laid listless in the scorching heat of the mid-afternoon sun. The thick air was oppressive with humidity mixed with the stench of manure wafting heavily in the air. Standing on the hard-baked soil of the pasture, Hannah and Ivy stood nose-to-nose, menacingly staring at each other as flies buzzed around their heads. Neither woman was willing to back down. They both knew they were about to fight.

Hannah felt the heat of the mid-afternoon sun simmering on her bare left shoulder as her eyes locked into a menacing stare down, standing nose-to-nose with Ivy. The oppressive heat, humidity, and the stench of manure pressed upon both women. Even the cattle sought relief from the heat, resting in the pasture to conserve energy The hard sunbaked soil beneath their feet would be a formidable battlefield for the fierce conflict they knew was about to take place. Neither one would blink despite the flies buzzing around their faces. Their feud would escalate into a physical war in a matter of seconds and both of them knew it.

Writers and readers alike are invited to leave comments. I’d love to hear from you. Have fun.
Kiva

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Re: Writing Styles: Setting
« Reply #1 on: March 11, 2024, 11:04:00 PM »
Fem-fighting writing 101 with Kiva is my favorite Course ever :)

Awesome advice Kiva, one of the things I prefer is that the women are knowingly getting into scraps, wither it is arranged apartment fights or in a ring, on a beach or a backyard. I understand maybe the panic of women getting into a fight out of nowhere, but like pro wrestling I like the sports element of the stories. So setting up the stage is important, are they meeting in private, in front of a crowd?

In Roleplaying games this is your World building, it sets the tone and helps build everything with the story. You should consider how safe is the setting you're using, can injury occur from the  Environment. Fighting on a concrete floor in a warehouse is much different than a carpeted Living room or ring. If its in an overly hot place can effect the action as well. I lean towards mostly ring matches, also setting the skill levels of fighters is important, do you want them doing big showy moves or keeping things simpler with basic moves and more brawling.

I really enjoy building the world, and don't be afraid to continue to update and add on to your world.

And my best advice in writing, use Paragraphs. :)

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Re: Writing Styles: Setting
« Reply #2 on: March 12, 2024, 02:15:30 AM »
I love it.  Great analysis.

One dimension I would add is the social class of the setting. 1880s American ran the gamut, from Newport, Rhode Island to Hell's Kitchen, New York.  Different types of catfighting presumably occurred in each place.  Or when those worlds collided, as in WASP college coeds and their Irish immigrant servants.

Setting can evoke so many feelings and senses, which the writer can amplify, ignore, or turn on their head (two WASP debutantes resorting to hairpulling, two Irish lasses obeying Marquess of Queenesbury rules).

I love choosing setting to experiment with.

Thanks Kiva!

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Re: Writing Styles: Setting
« Reply #3 on: March 12, 2024, 10:44:45 AM »
Consider also:

The cattle lay motionless in the heat, ignoring the two women, their tails switching only when the flies became unbearable.  The air seemed almost too thick to breathe, hot and humid and rank with the rich rot of  manure.  The gray grass struggled to survive; the sun-scorched arid dirt like iron.  Hannah and Ivy stood face-to-face in the pasture. Their hate hovered at the point of combustion. 

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Re: Writing Styles: Setting
« Reply #4 on: March 12, 2024, 11:48:52 AM »
Consider also:

The cattle lay motionless in the heat, ignoring the two women, their tails switching only when the flies became unbearable.  The air seemed almost too thick to breathe, hot and humid and rank with the rich rot of  manure.  The gray grass struggled to survive; the sun-scorched arid dirt like iron.  Hannah and Ivy stood face-to-face in the pasture. Their hate hovered at the point of combustion.

Brilliant! You are an exceptionally talented writer. Thank you for sharing that. Now I feel like I can barely breathe through all that heat, humidity and cow dung. Excellent!
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Re: Writing Styles: Setting
« Reply #5 on: March 12, 2024, 12:12:08 PM »
Consider also:

The cattle lay motionless in the heat, ignoring the two women, their tails switching only when the flies became unbearable.  The air seemed almost too thick to breathe, hot and humid and rank with the rich rot of  manure.  The gray grass struggled to survive; the sun-scorched arid dirt like iron.  Hannah and Ivy stood face-to-face in the pasture. Their hate hovered at the point of combustion.

Brilliant! You are an exceptionally talented writer. Thank you for sharing that. Now I feel like I can barely breathe through all that heat, humidity and cow dung. Excellent!

Set the scene, then center the characters in it; a film scene that starts wide and closes in.  Hear the rhythm of the words.  Let the reader’s mind complete the details. 

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Re: Writing Styles: Setting
« Reply #6 on: March 12, 2024, 04:47:06 PM »
Bcw8 again showing they have more talent for this in 2 sentences than most of us will ever write.  It's fantastic that people of the ilk of Bcw8 and Kiva can put advice down like this.  Truly some golden information for newer writers who want to improve.

While I would be happy to get anywhere near the level of quality ofthese wonderful authors, I will mention something I think should be said. To expand on the second point about the environment.

When I write the action scenes, it's all about variety.  Fights rarely are the same thing over and over, and neither should yours.  Use the environment to change up the dynamic of your fight scene.  Back one fighter against a wall, forcing them to focus on trying to get space to move, or limiting them in some way, presenting a challenge.  Have obstacles to trip over or bump into, which changes how the opponents move.  Is it slippery?  Can they get dirty, sweaty, wet?  How does that change how the characters feel, and how does that change how the characters interact with each other.

One example is a messy bedroom.  Bedclothes strewn all over the place, books fallen off the bookshelf, clothes scattered around. Hazards to trip on, weapons to wield, and those objects can even reveal personality traits of characters.  But the environment is ultimately crucial in preventing your fight from becoming simply "they stood there in the middle of the room and pulled hair."

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« Reply #7 on: May 07, 2024, 08:17:07 PM »
This has to be amongst the best settings ever. The scene is a hunting lodge, and the trophies on the walls, used for comic effect in this passage, are a leitmotif that tells you all you need to know about the mindset and motivation of the central character. To say more (though there's a lot more to be said) would spoil the story for those who haven't yet read it (link at the bottom).
To whet your appetite:

With the exception of the large stone fireplace, the walls and ceiling were wood.  The living room walls were lined with mounted animal trophies, including heads of deer, elk, caribou, moose, and wild boar.  Leather sofas and chairs were placed to the sides of the room.  A one inch thick beautifully ornate 20x20 Persian rug covered the center of the hardwood floor.  An 8 foot video screen was suspended on one wall, while a playroom loft overlooked the main room from the opposite side.  There were enough preserved full bodied animals throughout the lodge to send the taxidermist into early retirement.  Black bear, fox, coyote, game birds seemed to be at every turn.  A second room, called the “exotic” room contained trophies of antelope, wildebeests, water buffalo and animals I could not identify.

:At that juncture, Paula and Katie emerged from the kitchen to the main room, their flip flops clapping as they positioning themselves just below us.  “Jim, Kiva, listen up.  Katie and I had a good talk and we reached an agreement.  We decided on the agenda for today......We’re going to have a fight right here in this room on this rug.”

“What the FUCK!” I shrieked.  Katie you said you wouldn’t...”

“Kiva, let me explain,” Paula started, “I apologize.  There is no party today.  I invited only Katie.  You see, I heard gossip for weeks that she planned to confront me with physical violence.”  Paula had a point.  Katie always was a loose cannon.  “So, I thought I’d make it easy for her and bring her here so we can have a fair fight if she still wishes.  I didn’t want her in a position to drive after the fight so I told her to bring a friend.”

“And the swimsuits?” asked, my voice shaking.

“As you can see, I’m a wilderness woman,” she explained.  “Hunting is primal.  A one on one fight is primal.  I think it’s fitting we should wear as little as possible.  Katie is free to leave now or accept an offer to fight.  There’s no coercion.  She has chosen to stay and settle it.”

“You fuckers lied to us,” I screamed.  “You’re NUTS.  You’re FUCKING ANIMALS!”

“Aren’t we all?” suggested Jim.

The nude huntress eyed her kneeling weakening opponent and smiled as if she were about to put away a wounded wild boar.  Her shoulders rolled back, her hands on her hips, the head tilted upwards, she assumed the posture of dominance.  Katie, still on her knees, her skin resembling a world map of pink and alabaster, panted before her enemy. 

By now, I was feeling delirious.  My eyes and mind wandered.  I watched as the ghosts of the animal kingdom bore witness.  From their position on the walls, the animal trophy heads looked on in a solemn vigil like a panel of judges.  Each with its own unique story, they would soon deliberate before preparing their summary statement on human senselessness.  In the corner, the mounted Canadian goose, it’s wings outstretched in flight, was curious, never having seen such a strange sight during its past migratory journeys.  The coyote pair watched with great amusement.  Their paws raised in a playful pose, their jowls stretched back into gleeful grins, their heads tilted toward each other as if sharing a joke. The mountain goat was indifferent.  It’s eyes were fixed on the silly humans for a brief diversion, before it’s mind returned to thoughts of feeding in the fresh spring valley below the craggy cliffs.

Katie’s kicks were slower and weaker.  Paula bounced on her chest hoping to force a submission.  She had her woman’s arms pinned, her head wedged between her thighs, her naked pussy just inches from her victims mouth.  “Give up yet?”

This is part of a whole series that I think begins here: https://www.freecatfights.com/forums/index.php?topic=87785.msg607449#msg607449
Please correct me if I'm wrong:
Link to this episode: https://www.freecatfights.com/forums/index.php?topic=87273.msg604587#msg604587
From there, as improbable as this might seem, it gets even better.

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Re: Writing Styles: Setting
« Reply #8 on: May 08, 2024, 04:42:33 AM »
Thank you for your kind review @Tiberius J.C. “The Poacher” series was a blast to write. But I am cringing at all the typos. Some of them were created by my spellcheck. I’ve gotten better at proofing (I think).  ???

Here’s an artist’s rendering of what Paula and her husband Jim might look like.
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« Reply #9 on: May 11, 2024, 01:08:27 PM »
One of life's underappreciated surprises:  walking in on a setting where a girlfight happened, say, an hour or two ago. 

The intangible stuff:  an odd workout odor in the air, but with a whiff of two different perfumes.  And just a lingering sensation of electricity in the air (or is that Jealousy hormones?).

The telltale clues:  2 different-colored sets of torn hair, clothing remnants, carpeting slid out of place, knocked over lamps and magazines.