I just wanted to say I loved what Red and Gaelle had to say. Mood has a big part to do with it and sometimes with the right person it can be fun to lose. Still though I almost always want it to be competitive. Like ya said Red I think of it like a story we're writing together. I try not to think about wanting to win or lose too much just kind've go with the flow of the match. I loved what ya said about feeling out ya opponent in the first few moves to get an idea of what they like and how they write (in cyber) and like how much they know and how they use it. You can usually tell what kind of match you're gonna get in the first few posts I've usually found. Wanna say thanks again to Sara for bringing up these awesome wrestling clinic discussions!!