[liloldstacey]

I am new to the site but want to not make a bad impression right off the bat.  I am trying to find out about the feelings of the fighters here on jobbers.  I am not sure if there is another name for them but basically the people who say they want a fight then when you start as soon as you slap them one time they can never recover and basically force themselves to lose.  If they have it in their profile or name i am fine knowing about it before hand but the ones who lie saying they will make a good fight annoy me.  If anyone can tell me if it is somehow made to be that these people fell they have to lie or is it just wrong?  anyone's opinions would be gladly received.

Stacey

[Nutmeg]

There are a few factors at work here. One is that a significant number of people disdain jobbers and won't fight them period. Secondly, some people if they know they are predestined to win are not bringing their A game to the fight, so the jobber isn't getting the best value for their money as it were. And thirdly, I think there is some odd pride thing at work there. The people who like a good beating or to lose, seem to not like people to know or say that openly. And jobber does get tossed like an insult too easily here. Some days it feels like someone loses one match and they treat you like your nickname is canvasback.

The best you can do is also be open with what you want and maybe if you aren't getting it in a fight stop and ask what is up. It is possible you may have done a move that actually is devastating and the other person is selling it well. And there are some people who when they become submissive do a really good job keeping it close. It just takes time to find who plays best with you

[marydfights]

A major element in a cyber is for both parties to be on the same page when it comes to what is and what isn't expected, possible, reasonable etc.
While one may stand up and continue after being picked up and tossed onto their back another may consider that to be a crippling blow.
One may get a punch in the face and snap their head back, another may dip their head to evade and counter, while another may drop like a ton of bricks.....each of the reactions can be reasonable depending on the situation and contex

[Mandarin]

Both Mary and Meg are correct.  All I can add is is if you are not enjoying the fight with the individual then politely decline any other fights with them.  It is all about fun for both people and you need not worry about hurting feelings.

[Michelle]

Everyone's points have been spot on.....one thing I really try and do is I never just jump into anything with anyone right off the bat.  i try and get to know them...get a feel for how they might post something..the detail.  Then I try and find out what their thoughts are...what do they want from me...some find this an "irritating" process but if i am going to spend 3-4 hours with some one at minimum...I want to feel like the value of both our times is being maximized.  The other thing I do...is try to find and talk to someone who has fought this person and hopefully it is someone I know...and am comfy with and who's assessment I trust and means something to me.  This is pretty easy with the ones that have been around for awhile...but for a new person...it can be almost impossible to find anyone who can give a recommendation.

Some might say to me....well..shouldn't you just give that person a chance instead of going to all that trouble?  My response is still going to be....these things take way to much time and effort for me NOT to try and do a little homework.  When in doubt...I probably will walk away.  As for jobbers...as a general rule they aren't my thing although its not because of the negative connotation that word seems to have around here.  I'm simply way more competitive and a jobber doesn't feed the competitive desire in me.  I have, at times however,  done things with people who were jobbers and certain of that group can actually make the experience a lot fun....it just depends on the person.  There is no clear cut answer.....many times its just a gut feel.  Give yourself some time to get a feel for things here...and develop a circle of friends you can draw on for their thoughts and recommendations.

[Kateintense]

 stacy- I wanted to share my first experience wrestling a jobber 'in real life' (cyberfight not being real life?). it was an experience I won't forget; and sure not the first or last time I  was the source of general laughter by all present (none of them guys that day). I had just finished a very competitive match vs a woman that I enjoyed very much. I'm competitive and pretty intense. Msintense finally became my nick in this group; but at the time I was new to it all, and to this informal wrestling 'club'. A person asked me for a match. since most were getting ready to leave, and it was held at another's house, I decided to get in a bit more experience and said sure. My new opponent said nothing about her particular approach, so I figured it would be like the others.
But wow oh wow was I ever mistaken! It was like wrestling a practice dummy stuffed with mashed potatoes, and entirely 'yucky' to me. Every way I pushed her she went, every hold I tried worked with some slight resistance. At first I thought it was some weird strategy to lure me into a position where she could nail me. That never came, and I  just stopped the joke of a match, totally confused. Amid the laughter I was called aside and got the explanation that she was and extreme jobber- though no one told me so in advance. They got their show, and the experience was actually repellant to me. As meg said above we had entirely different expectations what the match was about; and as Michelle said I should have asked some questions before getting on the mat, yet I was in a hurry. Another example that I never learn more than when I lose or something goes wrong!
I think losing is pleasurable for some, desired and expected. Maybe proving a self image as a loser. Perhaps they want the dominant wrestler to look great- doing the "job", the part of pro jobbers  in scripted TV 'wrestling'. The beaten upon loser gets the affection, instead the bully villain of the pro this simple modern morality play. In a way then the jobber really wins- in their mind. And again they may think they are fighting hard in a real match; for the one's who don't identify themselves as 'jobbers'. The simple point applies to all mates: if your desires are in different places let it be known (or found out) up front. If it isn't mutually fun, play with someone else, but let that be made known with courtesy - YES EVEN IN CYBERWORLD, real people with real feelings! I repeat some of the above to say why jobbers might react as they do.