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Suitefights Solution?

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Offline Fightlover

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Suitefights Solution?
« on: February 14, 2022, 08:55:59 PM »
I've saw all the recent fights, we went from Sarah vs Lora (Top 3 best of all time for me) and Carmilla vs Vika to Angel vs Emma and Alexa vs Vika ending early... As well as the Aubrey vs Brooke controversy.

As i already mentioned here in this forum, i think Steve needs to book some big fights! Some girl that will surely deliver a long fight. Dolce just answered me the other day stating that she would fight for any producer including SF! Dolce is a known and experienced catfighter who usually has great and long fights! (Just see all of her fights for Tillytown in case you're not sure). Little Rampage is on twitter almost begging for a fight, she even challenged Emma! I see it as a huge oportunity for Steve... Dolce vs Rampage would certainly be entertaining and long!

There's also Valor who just cameback to the catfighting scene (as she stated on twitter) she's up for anything! Even though she is a producer herself, i think she would accept to fight for SF.

There's also a far hope of Sexywife! Yes, she is a producer too but she's not retired! Sexywife and Lyric (Her husband actually) are always announcing their recently created gumroad on twitter to maybe bump up their stuff, but with no new stuff... Maybe Steve can help them by offering a fight on SF! Maybe they comeback to fighting for real after that.

There are other known fighters like Davina (Davina vs Dolce on SF would be huge) Sarah, Lora, Taylor, Gia, Chakira etc who can maybe fight too.

But those are all my ideas... Lately Suitefights have been producing a lot but with Steve being dissapointed things won't go his way. Hope he sees it and thinks about it.

I think those are some known ones who would probably accept to fight under SF Production and would deliver great fights.

For me that could be a solution for the recent "problems".


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Offline dww4life

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« Reply #1 on: February 14, 2022, 08:59:20 PM »
There's also Valor who just cameback to the catfighting scene (as she stated on twitter) she's up for anything! Even though she is a producer herself, i think she would accept to fight for SF.
Can you tell me her twitter handle?
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 so far has been pretty shit, but you gotta keep going. Got something in the works that I know you all will want to see, but it's a couple months away at least.
We do have something good coming from SF, can't wait.

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Re: Suitefights Solution?
« Reply #2 on: February 14, 2022, 09:04:15 PM »
There's also Valor who just cameback to the catfighting scene (as she stated on twitter) she's up for anything! Even though she is a producer herself, i think she would accept to fight for SF.
Can you tell me her twitter handle?
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 so far has been pretty shit, but you gotta keep going. Got something in the works that I know you all will want to see, but it's a couple months away at least.
We do have something good coming from SF, can't wait.

https://twitter.com/valorcatfights?t=bizf71OcdygnVRiMWJAWYw&s=09

That's her twitter.


Well, if Steve said something is in the works, i hope it turns out to be incredible! He's a very honest person and i really hope things turn out good for him! Maybe one of those fights that i suggested happens before that "big work"... Maybe Back to Back Masterpieces? I know Steve can do it!
« Last Edit: February 14, 2022, 09:05:45 PM by Fightlover »

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Offline Keith Stat

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Re: Suitefights Solution?
« Reply #3 on: February 14, 2022, 11:33:45 PM »
I think I just respectfully disagree with the premise of this thread.

Longer fights don't necessarily mean "better' fights. I've bought plenty of "competitive" catfights where it is painfully obvious they are just "running" the clock, and not actually trying to make each other submit.  I'd prefer 5 minutes of "chaos" over 25 minutes of half-assed wrestling holds. Also, I don't want this to sound harsh, and everyone has their own preferences and I don't mean to diminish that, but the fighters in a Suitefights production almost always are models by day. Seeing legit glamor models slap and pull hair is a HUGE part of the fantasy. Other types of catfighters are likely "better" fighters, but I'm much less interested in seeing them topless in a thong fighting. If I actually cared about techniques, strength and ability, I'd be watching women's MMA. Once again, I realize everyone has their own preferences on that and I'm not "right," but I think Suitefights has made his $ and reputation by having conventionally attractive models (Playboy, Penthouse, pornstars, etc) fight it out in 4K where the "beauty" is a huge aspect of his type of production.

And while Suitefights has expressed some frustration with recent fights, I just think he needs to be less hard on himself. I sort of feel like we are in a golden age of Suitefights right now. Carmilla/Vika and Sarah/Lora are two of the better fights he's ever produced. We've had 5 fights in recent months with lots of debuts. I'd EASILY recommend 4 out of 5 of them (Aubrey vs Brooke just wasn't "MY' type of fight, but I don't regret in the slightest sponsoring it). I'd say opinion is almost unanimous that the debuts of Vika, Carmilla, Lora and Emma were all extremely promising. The return of sponsorships has also been a fucking terrific development.

I'd also say some fans need to radically adjust their expectations. Fights are inherently unpredictable, and they are 10000x more unpredictable when you have models fighting one another. The amount of variables that can go sideways in that situation is extraordinary. If you want real fights, then this is just the reality. Sometimes a fighter might be literally on the verge of throwing up multiple times during a fight and sometimes you'll get a 40-minute epic. Just think how many times you've watched an MMA or boxing match where a Champion matches up with the #1 contender that just ends in a matter of seconds. It just happens! And it will certainly happy more often when you have amateurs fighting with little training who are models by day. But I think some people just need to get their expectations in check that a fight is a fight and it can start or end in a split second. The unpredictability is part of the fun of it all. It's certainly not fun for Suitefights, but it's just the reality of the situation. Every fight might be the next "Jess/Mira 2," and I know Suitefights wants that every time he organizes a fight, but people just got to keep their expectations in check and financially support those willing to take on the risk of setting up these fights. We won't see the next "classic" if it doesn't get scheduled.

The smallest bit of advice I'd give to Suitefights is to attempt to schedule multiple fights on the same day, if possible. I felt bad for him having back to back weeks for Alexa/Vika and Emma/Angel where he needed to reserve hotel rooms, set up everything and basically start from "zero" each day. Out of those days, he might have gotten a combined 10 minutes or so of fighting. While there's always risks a production could go haywire, at least all eggs aren't being put in one basket and hopefully you'll get multiple fights filmed in one day with less risk and less set up. I'd also try my hardest to strike as quick as possible when you know you have a rematch or fighters that are willing and proven to not be flakey. One of the best things Suitefights did back in the day was having Mira in for multiple fights in a month. If the fans are excited to see more, try not to disrupt momentum. Obviously, scheduling and difficulties we never see enter into this, but it's always fun to have a Suitefights production to look forward to.

Also, I think I know what the fight Suitefights is hinting at in that tweet. At one point last year he was hinting at a crossover fight with Mexican Catfights. If that came to fruition, that would be out-fucking-standing. If it's something else, I'm all ears as well. As I mentioned earlier, it's always fun to have a fight to look forward to!

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Re: Suitefights Solution?
« Reply #4 on: February 14, 2022, 11:56:04 PM »
I just want to say that a solution is not the right phrase, steve at suitefights does an incredible job getting sexy women to fight for the pleasure of us fans. Not everyone will like every fight but give the guy a break, he puts on these incredible matches and we get entertained and turned on.

Keep doing what you’re doing steve !!!!

His success is sparking others and for that we should also praise him

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Offline rin753

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Re: Suitefights Solution?
« Reply #5 on: February 15, 2022, 03:06:44 AM »
For me that could be a solution for the recent "problems".

What problems?  There are no PROBLEMS.  Just because a fight doesn't fit your particular wants and needs 100%, doesn't mean that there is a problem.

You should get down on your hands and knees and thank god every day that a company like SuiteFights exists.  Real fights, pretty girls, excellent production and so inexpensive it's almost like stealing.

If I was Steve and read your "solutions to his problems"  I'd throw up my hands and quit the biz.

Here is really what you need to do.  Buy a Suitefight.  Ask yourself "Do I feel ripped off like we have been for decades by lying producers?"  If the answer is yes...then offer your complaints, otherwise just shut up.  Suitefights does not need fixing.

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« Reply #6 on: February 15, 2022, 09:24:16 AM »
I get what you're saying, I do want to see the biggest names fight and have a tournament but sometimes things just don't happen that way. Pretty satisfied with the last couple of releases from Suitefights but this thread reminded me of something --  I don't know whatever happened but Madison Swan sent a tweet to Suitefights asking to work last year. Would've been fun to see her in a catfight. Could be completely wrong but I think Steve has his own vision on what constitutes a fight he wants under the Suitefights name. For some reason I feel like you'd see Tilly set up a fight for Kira before Suitefights does.

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Re: Suitefights Solution?
« Reply #7 on: February 15, 2022, 10:21:46 AM »
For me that could be a solution for the recent "problems".

What problems?  There are no PROBLEMS.  Just because a fight doesn't fit your particular wants and needs 100%, doesn't mean that there is a problem.

You should get down on your hands and knees and thank god every day that a company like SuiteFights exists.  Real fights, pretty girls, excellent production and so inexpensive it's almost like stealing.

If I was Steve and read your "solutions to his problems"  I'd throw up my hands and quit the biz.

Here is really what you need to do.  Buy a Suitefight.  Ask yourself "Do I feel ripped off like we have been for decades by lying producers?"  If the answer is yes...then offer your complaints, otherwise just shut up.  Suitefights does not need fixing.

Rich

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I've said "problems" as it is not a real problem, but it is making it difficult for the producer... Never said it needs fixing, just suggested a solution for the recent things that happened since many women offered themselves to fight with SF.

You should be more calm, you're being too agressive while reading incorrectly... I already bought multiple SF fights and sponsored a lot too.

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Re: Suitefights Solution?
« Reply #8 on: February 15, 2022, 10:35:57 AM »
I think I just respectfully disagree with the premise of this thread.

Longer fights don't necessarily mean "better' fights. I've bought plenty of "competitive" catfights where it is painfully obvious they are just "running" the clock, and not actually trying to make each other submit.  I'd prefer 5 minutes of "chaos" over 25 minutes of half-assed wrestling holds. Also, I don't want this to sound harsh, and everyone has their own preferences and I don't mean to diminish that, but the fighters in a Suitefights production almost always are models by day. Seeing legit glamor models slap and pull hair is a HUGE part of the fantasy. Other types of catfighters are likely "better" fighters, but I'm much less interested in seeing them topless in a thong fighting. If I actually cared about techniques, strength and ability, I'd be watching women's MMA. Once again, I realize everyone has their own preferences on that and I'm not "right," but I think Suitefights has made his $ and reputation by having conventionally attractive models (Playboy, Penthouse, pornstars, etc) fight it out in 4K where the "beauty" is a huge aspect of his type of production.

And while Suitefights has expressed some frustration with recent fights, I just think he needs to be less hard on himself. I sort of feel like we are in a golden age of Suitefights right now. Carmilla/Vika and Sarah/Lora are two of the better fights he's ever produced. We've had 5 fights in recent months with lots of debuts. I'd EASILY recommend 4 out of 5 of them (Aubrey vs Brooke just wasn't "MY' type of fight, but I don't regret in the slightest sponsoring it). I'd say opinion is almost unanimous that the debuts of Vika, Carmilla, Lora and Emma were all extremely promising. The return of sponsorships has also been a fucking terrific development.

I'd also say some fans need to radically adjust their expectations. Fights are inherently unpredictable, and they are 10000x more unpredictable when you have models fighting one another. The amount of variables that can go sideways in that situation is extraordinary. If you want real fights, then this is just the reality. Sometimes a fighter might be literally on the verge of throwing up multiple times during a fight and sometimes you'll get a 40-minute epic. Just think how many times you've watched an MMA or boxing match where a Champion matches up with the #1 contender that just ends in a matter of seconds. It just happens! And it will certainly happy more often when you have amateurs fighting with little training who are models by day. But I think some people just need to get their expectations in check that a fight is a fight and it can start or end in a split second. The unpredictability is part of the fun of it all. It's certainly not fun for Suitefights, but it's just the reality of the situation. Every fight might be the next "Jess/Mira 2," and I know Suitefights wants that every time he organizes a fight, but people just got to keep their expectations in check and financially support those willing to take on the risk of setting up these fights. We won't see the next "classic" if it doesn't get scheduled.

The smallest bit of advice I'd give to Suitefights is to attempt to schedule multiple fights on the same day, if possible. I felt bad for him having back to back weeks for Alexa/Vika and Emma/Angel where he needed to reserve hotel rooms, set up everything and basically start from "zero" each day. Out of those days, he might have gotten a combined 10 minutes or so of fighting. While there's always risks a production could go haywire, at least all eggs aren't being put in one basket and hopefully you'll get multiple fights filmed in one day with less risk and less set up. I'd also try my hardest to strike as quick as possible when you know you have a rematch or fighters that are willing and proven to not be flakey. One of the best things Suitefights did back in the day was having Mira in for multiple fights in a month. If the fans are excited to see more, try not to disrupt momentum. Obviously, scheduling and difficulties we never see enter into this, but it's always fun to have a Suitefights production to look forward to.

Also, I think I know what the fight Suitefights is hinting at in that tweet. At one point last year he was hinting at a crossover fight with Mexican Catfights. If that came to fruition, that would be out-fucking-standing. If it's something else, I'm all ears as well. As I mentioned earlier, it's always fun to have a fight to look forward to!
I don't really care about the fight being long or not, but Steve does... At least from what we've seen. I like to see a catfight, doesn't matter who it is. I like to see bigger women fighting since i like the breast attacks and all that, so i like when you have girls like that fighting each other and going for each other's tits, ass etc.

I've said those girls because they are known and will bring some hype since they already have fans who saw them fighting before. The beauty aspect differs from person to person.

For me what matters is the fight itself, not the fighters, so i would love to see some of those entertainers on SF as well.

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Re: Suitefights Solution?
« Reply #9 on: February 16, 2022, 12:24:49 AM »
Doubt we'll ever see Dolce, Valor or Rampage at Suitefights. He tends to have a certain look for his fighters that none of them really fit. Unless I'm mistaken he has Vika, Alexa, Sarah Brooke, Lora, Emma, Angel, ECNWC Brooke, and probably a returning Nikki to add to the mix at some point too. Maybe we'll see Carmilla, Michelle or Taylor return too.

I'm not saying the three women you mentioned can't fight, but I just don't see them getting booked at Suitefights. There are plenty of other places for them to do their thing though.

I would love to see Santana from Mexican catfights come across - I think she might genuinely give Sarah Brooke a tough fight. Another fairly prominent catfighter I'm surprised we haven't seen at Suitefights is Paris Love, who I think would be a good match for Sarah too, though I'm not sure if she's doing real fights anymore. Also, personally would love to see Tara, now known as Peyton come back. Think she'd make an excellent opponent for the likes of Angel and Emma, but given that she has no social media presence and continually seems to disappear for nine month stretches, maybe she's like Nikki and hard to pin down.

All that said, I've bought and enjoyed all three of the supposedly 'bad' recent fights and with the exception of wishing he'd scrubbed the vomit sounds from the newest fight, I don't think Steve did anything wrong.
« Last Edit: February 16, 2022, 12:26:07 AM by b3b392 »

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Offline Keith Stat

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Re: Suitefights Solution?
« Reply #10 on: February 16, 2022, 01:44:36 AM »
I don't really care about the fight being long or not, but Steve does... At least from what we've seen. I like to see a catfight, doesn't matter who it is. I like to see bigger women fighting since i like the breast attacks and all that, so i like when you have girls like that fighting each other and going for each other's tits, ass etc.

I've said those girls because they are known and will bring some hype since they already have fans who saw them fighting before. The beauty aspect differs from person to person.

For me what matters is the fight itself, not the fighters, so i would love to see some of those entertainers on SF as well.

Like, this whole thread is sort of bizarre. You're offering "solutions" to problems that don't exist and then fantasy booking models and types of fighters when you said, "what matters is the fight itself, not the fighters." And you're talking about lengths of fights, when that is an impossibility to guarantee if the fights are real. All of this with the backdrop that in the VAST majority opinions are that the last "grouping" of fights have been great.

I'm happy you have your preference in model type. More power to you! But it's been many years of Suitefights booking catfights and he typically has a "type" of model he books and that's what his business has always been about. It's never been about "Championship" level fighting. It's always been glamor models slapping and pulling each others hair usually topless and in a thong. There's other places if you want to see "great" fights.