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Re: catfights in literature (J T Edson books)
« Reply #45 on: April 15, 2020, 12:28:15 AM »
I'm getting the collection together (eBook/Paperback and possibly Hardback), Fights from my collection to date.

J.T. Edson Books With Female Fights.
Paperback, Hardbacks and eBooks will have different numbers, so be aware.
Waco: Sagebrush Sleuth   
Mrs Harcourt Vs Libby Hogan; Tent camp fight.
Waco: Waco Rides In      
Tioga Vs Miss Lilly Carlisle; Hotel room fight.
Waco: The Drifter      
Lynn Vs Beth; Sisters (not realised) fight in a Saloon.
Waco’s Debt
      Mary Anne Vs Della; Corral fight.
Wanted! Belle Starr   
Belle Starr Vs Drusilla St. John-Bellweather; (Amelia Penelope Dianna Benkinsop) Mason catfight.
Is-A-Man   
Becky Ingraham Vs Lady Lavinia of Sheffield; Fight in a Saloon. Becky Ingraham Vs Five Squaws; Mass catfight.
Calamity Jane: Calamity, Mark and Belle
Jill Vs Joy; Ring Barn fight (Chapter 5). Marigold Tremayne (Belle Starr) Vs Calamity; Barroom fight
Calamity Jane: Cold Deck, Hot Lead
Sal Banyan Vs Calamity; Saloon fight. Velma Vs Joan; Saloon room fight.
Calamity Jane: The Bull Whip Breed
Calamity Vs Jacqueline (Savate fighter); Saloon fight to mass brawl.
Calamity Jane: Trouble Trail
      Russian Olga Vs Calamity; Eileen Vs Molly: Catfight near stream.
Calamity Jane: The Cow Thieves
Calamity Vs Dora; Saloon fight. Marty Vs Phyl; Start of a Saloon room fight. Mousey Vs Dora; Start of a fight. Calamity Vs Ella: Open range catfight.
Calamity Jane: The Hide and Horn Saloon
      Madam Bulldog Vs Wanda Higgins; Boxing match.
Calamity Jane: Calamity Spells Trouble
Calamity Vs Evelyn; Open range catfight.
Two Miles to the Border
Sybil Vs Sarah/Bernadette/Rosita (Sisters of the Lord Outlaws); Church fight.
Waxahachie Smith: Slip Gun
Wil Jeffreys (Bar Owner/Mayor) Vs Lily Shivers (Bar Owner); Room Catfight.
Dusty Fog’s Civil War: The Devil Gun
      Jill (Renegade)Vs Liz (Yankee Wife); 2 Short fights.
Dusty Fog’s Civil War: The Colt and the Sabre
      Belle Boyd Vs Flora (with some help); House catfight.
The Floating Outfit: A Horse Called Mogollon
      Beatrice Vs Libby; Bedroom/Hall catfight.
The Floating Outfit: From Hide and Horn
      Dawn (Ranch Rep/Hand) Vs Barbie (Wife/Disrupter); Clearing Catfight.
The Floating Outfit: The Hide and Tallow Men
Gianna Vs Marlene; Kitchen fight/death
The Floating Outfit: Quiet Town
Russian Olga Vs Eeney Haufman (Germany Assent); Fist Fight. Eeney/Maggie/Roxie Vs Bearcat Annie (Saloon Owner) and her hired help; Saloon catfight.
The Floating Outfit: Wagons to Backsight
      Louise Vs Sue Ortega; Corral catfight.
The Floating Outfit: Troubled Range
Belle Starr Vs Calamity Jane; Saloon fight. Tilda-Mae Vs Jaya (Johnny’s new wife; Outside catfight. Britches Vs Annie; Hideout catfight.
The Floating Outfit: The Bad Bunch
      Belle Starr/Calamity Jane/Belle Boyd Vs Outlaws; Various Catfights.
The Floating Outfit: The Wildcats
Calamity Jane (Daughter) Vs Madam Bulldog (False name and Mother of Calamity Jane; Saloon catfight. Poker Alice Vs Madam Moustache (Both fake names); Saloon catfight.

The Floating Outfit: The Trouble Busters
Freddie (Saloon Owner/Mayor) Vs Kate (Saloon Owner); Short fist fight. Freddie and her girls Vs Kate and her girls; Mass saloon fight.
The Floating Outfit: Cards and Colts (Diamonds, Emeralds, Cards and Colts – Paperback title)
Irene (Metis Girl) Vs Miss Olga Chernyshevsky (Fake name); Saloon catfight, ending in Mud.
The Floating Outfit: The Law of the Gun
      Maggie (Ear biter) Vs Sadie (The Goat); Saloon catfight
Calamity, Mark and Belle
Joy Turner Vs Jill Hambling; Barn catfight. Belle Starr Vs Calamity Jane; Saloon fight.
The Town Tamers
Taffy Davies Vs Fran Murkle; Wrestling in a Saloon. Taffy Vs Ginger; Small catfight.
The South will rise again
      Belle Vs Bertha; catfight. Baroness vs Belle; catfight.
Hell in the Palo Duro
      Belle vs Emma; Saloon catfight and an outside fake catfight.
. Terror Valley
      Sheila vs Countess; catfight leading to deaths.
Old Moccasins on the trail.
Mavis vs Florencia; Bedroom catfight, finishing with audience on ground floor.
J. T.’s Ladies
Dawn vs Agasha; catfight, until one dies. Binnie Gates vs Agnes Hickok; fist fight.
More J. T.’s Ladies
Rita Yarborough (Company Z) vs Cora-Ann (British Service wife); Room catfight.
 J. T.’s Ladies ride again
Rita Yarborough (Company Z) vs Vanessa-Diedre (Criminal); catfight. Calamity Jane/Belle Starr vs Mary Abbott/Dixie/Linda Bell/Margaret Gascoigne; catfight.
Ranch War
Calamity Jane vs Florence Eastfield; Corral, Ledge, Water and Mud catfight.
J. T.’s Hundredth
      Belle vs Arlette; catfight.
Wilts1755 enjoys catfight stories. I am just interested in the stories and not anything else (I can't write a story or get involved with Cyber catfights)... Sorry.

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Re: catfights in literature (J T Edson books)
« Reply #46 on: April 15, 2020, 09:35:16 AM »
I'm getting the collection together (eBook/Paperback and possibly Hardback), Fights from my collection to date.

J.T. Edson Books With Female Fights.
Paperback, Hardbacks and eBooks will have different numbers, so be aware.
Waco: Sagebrush Sleuth   
Mrs Harcourt Vs Libby Hogan; Tent camp fight.
Waco: Waco Rides In      
Tioga Vs Miss Lilly Carlisle; Hotel room fight.
Waco: The Drifter      
Lynn Vs Beth; Sisters (not realised) fight in a Saloon.
Waco’s Debt
      Mary Anne Vs Della; Corral fight.
Wanted! Belle Starr   
Belle Starr Vs Drusilla St. John-Bellweather; (Amelia Penelope Dianna Benkinsop) Mason catfight.
Is-A-Man   
Becky Ingraham Vs Lady Lavinia of Sheffield; Fight in a Saloon. Becky Ingraham Vs Five Squaws; Mass catfight.
Calamity Jane: Calamity, Mark and Belle
Jill Vs Joy; Ring Barn fight (Chapter 5). Marigold Tremayne (Belle Starr) Vs Calamity; Barroom fight
Calamity Jane: Cold Deck, Hot Lead
Sal Banyan Vs Calamity; Saloon fight. Velma Vs Joan; Saloon room fight.
Calamity Jane: The Bull Whip Breed
Calamity Vs Jacqueline (Savate fighter); Saloon fight to mass brawl.
Calamity Jane: Trouble Trail
      Russian Olga Vs Calamity; Eileen Vs Molly: Catfight near stream.
Calamity Jane: The Cow Thieves
Calamity Vs Dora; Saloon fight. Marty Vs Phyl; Start of a Saloon room fight. Mousey Vs Dora; Start of a fight. Calamity Vs Ella: Open range catfight.
Calamity Jane: The Hide and Horn Saloon
      Madam Bulldog Vs Wanda Higgins; Boxing match.
Calamity Jane: Calamity Spells Trouble
Calamity Vs Evelyn; Open range catfight.
Two Miles to the Border
Sybil Vs Sarah/Bernadette/Rosita (Sisters of the Lord Outlaws); Church fight.
Waxahachie Smith: Slip Gun
Wil Jeffreys (Bar Owner/Mayor) Vs Lily Shivers (Bar Owner); Room Catfight.
Dusty Fog’s Civil War: The Devil Gun
      Jill (Renegade)Vs Liz (Yankee Wife); 2 Short fights.
Dusty Fog’s Civil War: The Colt and the Sabre
      Belle Boyd Vs Flora (with some help); House catfight.
The Floating Outfit: A Horse Called Mogollon
      Beatrice Vs Libby; Bedroom/Hall catfight.
The Floating Outfit: From Hide and Horn
      Dawn (Ranch Rep/Hand) Vs Barbie (Wife/Disrupter); Clearing Catfight.
The Floating Outfit: The Hide and Tallow Men
Gianna Vs Marlene; Kitchen fight/death
The Floating Outfit: Quiet Town
Russian Olga Vs Eeney Haufman (Germany Assent); Fist Fight. Eeney/Maggie/Roxie Vs Bearcat Annie (Saloon Owner) and her hired help; Saloon catfight.
The Floating Outfit: Wagons to Backsight
      Louise Vs Sue Ortega; Corral catfight.
The Floating Outfit: Troubled Range
Belle Starr Vs Calamity Jane; Saloon fight. Tilda-Mae Vs Jaya (Johnny’s new wife; Outside catfight. Britches Vs Annie; Hideout catfight.
The Floating Outfit: The Bad Bunch
      Belle Starr/Calamity Jane/Belle Boyd Vs Outlaws; Various Catfights.
The Floating Outfit: The Wildcats
Calamity Jane (Daughter) Vs Madam Bulldog (False name and Mother of Calamity Jane; Saloon catfight. Poker Alice Vs Madam Moustache (Both fake names); Saloon catfight.

The Floating Outfit: The Trouble Busters
Freddie (Saloon Owner/Mayor) Vs Kate (Saloon Owner); Short fist fight. Freddie and her girls Vs Kate and her girls; Mass saloon fight.
The Floating Outfit: Cards and Colts (Diamonds, Emeralds, Cards and Colts – Paperback title)
Irene (Metis Girl) Vs Miss Olga Chernyshevsky (Fake name); Saloon catfight, ending in Mud.
The Floating Outfit: The Law of the Gun
      Maggie (Ear biter) Vs Sadie (The Goat); Saloon catfight
Calamity, Mark and Belle
Joy Turner Vs Jill Hambling; Barn catfight. Belle Starr Vs Calamity Jane; Saloon fight.
The Town Tamers
Taffy Davies Vs Fran Murkle; Wrestling in a Saloon. Taffy Vs Ginger; Small catfight.
The South will rise again
      Belle Vs Bertha; catfight. Baroness vs Belle; catfight.
Hell in the Palo Duro
      Belle vs Emma; Saloon catfight and an outside fake catfight.
. Terror Valley
      Sheila vs Countess; catfight leading to deaths.
Old Moccasins on the trail.
Mavis vs Florencia; Bedroom catfight, finishing with audience on ground floor.
J. T.’s Ladies
Dawn vs Agasha; catfight, until one dies. Binnie Gates vs Agnes Hickok; fist fight.
More J. T.’s Ladies
Rita Yarborough (Company Z) vs Cora-Ann (British Service wife); Room catfight.
 J. T.’s Ladies ride again
Rita Yarborough (Company Z) vs Vanessa-Diedre (Criminal); catfight. Calamity Jane/Belle Starr vs Mary Abbott/Dixie/Linda Bell/Margaret Gascoigne; catfight.
Ranch War
Calamity Jane vs Florence Eastfield; Corral, Ledge, Water and Mud catfight.
J. T.’s Hundredth
      Belle vs Arlette; catfight.

Thanks.
I know in JT work often good girls wins. I'm into good girls defeated or at least taking a beating. Do you know if there is something for me?
Thanks.

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Re: catfights in literature
« Reply #47 on: April 15, 2020, 03:00:14 PM »
Excellent list so far.  Here's one to add:

J. D. Robb - Treachery In Death

This is one of a series of police mystery novels written by Nora Roberts under the "J. D. Robb" pseudonym.  The main character is Eve Dallas, on the New York City police force about 50 years in the future.  In this particular story (page 369) Eve confronts another female officer to arrest her, and the woman slips out of her shoes in response to Eve's holding a gun.  You guessed it - down goes the gun and ...

Hey DCameron, can you please tell me which chapter this happens at? I have it in a different page numbering than you.


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Re: catfights in literature
« Reply #48 on: April 17, 2020, 11:12:40 AM »
I am sure that there is a list of J. T. edson books (with a brief description of catfights) , somewhere on this site. As I am collecting them via Kobo eBook website and like to see if I got them all. Can anyone help me please? You can message me with what you find, If you like.
Wilts1755 enjoys catfight stories. I am just interested in the stories and not anything else (I can't write a story or get involved with Cyber catfights)... Sorry.

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Re: catfights in literature
« Reply #49 on: April 19, 2020, 10:57:45 AM »
Update the list and will add more eBook titles... I am sure that there are some good girl gets beaten or nearly destroyed (I think).

J.T. Edson Books With Female Fights.
Paperback, Hardbacks and eBooks will have different numbers, so be aware.
Calamity, Mark and Belle
Joy Turner Vs Jill Hambling; Barn catfight. Belle Starr Vs Calamity Jane; Saloon fight.
Calamity Jane 9: White Stallion, red Mare
Calamity vs Florence Eastfield; Catfight in a Corral, Cliff Ledge, Water and Mud.
Calamity Jane: Calamity, Mark and Belle
Jill Vs Joy; Ring Barn fight (Chapter 5). Marigold Tremayne (Belle Starr) Vs Calamity; Barroom fight
Calamity Jane: Cold Deck, Hot Lead
Sal Banyan Vs Calamity; Saloon fight. Velma Vs Joan; Saloon room fight.
Calamity Jane: White Stallion, red Mare
Calamity vs Florence Eastfield; Catfight in a Corral, Cliff Ledge, Water and Mud.
Calamity Jane: The Bull Whip Breed
Calamity Vs Jacqueline (Savate fighter); Saloon fight to mass brawl.
Calamity Jane: Trouble Trail
      Russian Olga Vs Calamity; Eileen Vs Molly: Catfight near stream.
Calamity Jane: The Cow Thieves
Calamity Vs Dora; Saloon fight. Marty Vs Phyl; Start of a Saloon room fight. Mousey Vs Dora; Start of a fight. Calamity Vs Ella: Open range catfight.
Calamity Jane: The Hide and Horn Saloon
      Madam Bulldog Vs Wanda Higgins; Boxing match.
Calamity Jane: Calamity Spells Trouble
Calamity Vs Evelyn; Open range catfight.
A Horse Called Mogollon
      Beatrice Vs Libby; Bedroom/Hall catfight.

From Hide and Horn
      Dawn (Ranch Rep/Hand) Vs Barbie (Wife/Disrupter); Clearing Catfight.
The Hide and Tallow Men
Gianna Vs Marlene; Kitchen fight/death
Quiet Town
Russian Olga Vs Eeney Haufman (Germany Assent); Fist Fight. Eeney/Maggie/Roxie Vs Bearcat Annie (Saloon Owner) and her hired help; Saloon catfight.
Wagons to Backsight
      Louise Vs Sue Ortega; Corral catfight.
Troubled Range
Belle Starr Vs Calamity Jane; Saloon fight. Tilda-Mae Vs Jaya (Johnny’s new wife; Outside catfight. Britches Vs Annie; Hideout catfight.
The Bad Bunch
      Belle Starr/Calamity Jane/Belle Boyd Vs Outlaws; Various Catfights.
The Trouble Busters
Freddie (Saloon Owner/Mayor) Vs Kate (Saloon Owner); Short fist fight. Freddie and her girls Vs Kate and her girls; Mass saloon fight.
The Wildcats
Calamity Jane (Daughter) Vs Madam Bulldog (False name and Mother of Calamity Jane; Saloon catfight. Poker Alice Vs Madam Moustache (Both fake names); Saloon catfight.
The Trouble Busters
Freddie (Saloon Owner/Mayor) Vs Kate (Saloon Owner); Short fist fight. Freddie and her girls Vs Kate and her girls; Mass saloon fight.
The Law of the Gun
      Maggie Vs Sadie; Saloon catfight
Cards and Colts (Diamonds, Emeralds, Cards and Colts – Paperback title)
Irene (Metis Girl) Vs Miss Olga Chernyshevsky (Fake name); Saloon catfight, ending in Mud.


The Town Tamers
Taffy Davies Vs Fran Murkle; Wrestling in a Saloon. Taffy Vs Ginger; Small catfight.
The South will rise again
      Belle Vs Bertha; catfight. Baroness vs Belle; catfight.
Hell in the Palo Duro
      Belle vs Emma; Saloon catfight and an outside fake catfight.
.Terror Valley
      Sheila vs Countess; catfight leading to deaths.
Old Moccasins on the trail.
Mavis vs Florencia; Bedroom catfight, finishing with audience on ground floor.
The Quest for Bowie’s Blade
      Belle Starr vs Belle Boyd; Near river catfight.
The Fortune Hunters
      Marlene vs Joan; Catfight.
The Texan
      Iris Pendleton vs Major Pauline Cushman; Corral Catfight.
Waco: Waco’s Badge
      Sarah (Summer Complainant) vs Belle Starr; Bedroom catfight.
Waco: Hound Dog Man
      Pauline vs Norah; Outside camp fight.
Waco: Sagebrush Sleuth   
Mrs Harcourt Vs Libby Hogan; Tent camp fight.
Waco: Waco Rides In      
Tioga Vs Miss Lilly Carlisle; Hotel room fight.
Waco: The Drifter      
Lynn Vs Beth; Sisters (not realised) fight in a Saloon.
Waco’s Debt
      Mary Anne Vs Della; Corral fight.
Dusty Fog’s Civil War: A Matter of Honor
Young Ladies; fighting (leading to) Mary vs Francoise/Lotte; Catfight. Mary vs Belle Boyd.
Dusty Fog’s Civil War: The Bloody Border
      Belle vs Eva; Spy catfight.
Dusty Fog’s Civil War: Back to the Bloody Border
      Belle vs Eva; Spy catfight.
Dusty Fog’s Civil War: The Devil Gun
      Jill (Renegade)Vs Liz (Yankee Wife); 2 Short fights.
Dusty Fog’s Civil War: The Colt and the Sabre
      Belle Boyd Vs Flora (with some help); House catfight.
Two Miles to the Border
Sybil Vs Sarah/Bernadette/Rosita (Sisters of the Lord Outlaws); Church fight.
Waxahachie Smith: Slip Gun
Wil Jeffreys (Bar Owner/Mayor) Vs Lily Shivers (Bar Owner); Room Catfight.
J. T.’s Ladies
Dawn vs Agasha; catfight, until one dies. Binnie Gates vs Agnes Hickok; fist fight.
J. T.’s Hundredth
      Belle vs Arlette; catfight.
More J. T.’s Ladies
Rita Yarborough (Company Z) vs Cora-Ann (British Service wife); Room catfight.
 J. T.’s Ladies ride again
Rita Yarborough (Company Z) vs Vanessa-Diedre (Criminal); catfight. Calamity Jane/Belle Starr vs Mary Abbott/Dixie/Linda Bell/Margaret Gascoigne; catfight.
Ranch War
Calamity Jane vs Florence Eastfield; Corral, Ledge, Water and Mud catfight.
J. T.’s Hundredth
      Belle vs Arlette; catfight.

Wanted! Belle Starr   
Belle Starr Vs Drusilla St. John-Bellweather; (Amelia Penelope Dianna Benkinsop) Mason catfight.
Is-A-Man   
Becky Ingraham Vs Lady Lavinia of Sheffield; Fight in a Saloon. Becky Ingraham Vs Five Squaws; Mass catfight.


Wilts1755 enjoys catfight stories. I am just interested in the stories and not anything else (I can't write a story or get involved with Cyber catfights)... Sorry.

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Re: catfights in literature
« Reply #50 on: August 19, 2020, 06:18:22 AM »
I arranged the titles in this interesting thread in chronological order, and added links to images (and text when available), for easier access.

Ken Follett. Hornet Flight. UK: 2002. There is a catfight in it. (Other books by this author allegedly also contain women fight scenes.)
http://images.gr-assets.com/books/1309202400l/92375.jpg

Russell Whitfield. Gladiatrix. Gladiatrix #1 series. US: 2008. High profile novel, featuring drama and action scenes with women-of-the-sword in Imperial Rome.
http://www.russellwhitfield.com/assets/example/team/gladiatrix.jpg

In 'Hornet Flight' one woman is about to shoot at an airplane and another runs up behind her and swings her suitcase knocking her out. Is that what you're calling a catfight or did I miss something?

Russell Whitfield. Gladiatrix. - There are 3 novels in the series and they're packed with exciting woman-versus-woman gladiatorial contests plus one or two pitched battles.
 http://www.russellwhitfield.com/

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« Reply #51 on: August 19, 2020, 12:55:06 PM »
With the gladiatrix series are the fights hand to hand? Or all weapons?

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« Reply #52 on: August 19, 2020, 05:46:33 PM »
With the gladiatrix series are the fights hand to hand? Or all weapons?
All with weapons (swords, axes, tridents…) as best I can remember and almost always to the death. There's a rather good one (on the training ground when they're using wooden practice swords) that isn't, and perhaps one or two others in the second and third books of the series where the loser's life is spared, but those are definitely the exceptions rather than the rule.

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« Reply #53 on: August 19, 2020, 06:22:06 PM »
Although the fight itself isn't that long, I expect a lot of readers of this forum would love 'Treachery in Death' (J.D.Robb) - great find by DCameron! I wrote a review and forgot to post it:

It's the age-old struggle between Good and Evil presented in the sexiest guise imaginable: as a duel between two beautiful, intelligent, strong-willed, female police lieutenants - each a leader capable of inspiring devotion in the men and women under her command, each called upon, too, at times to flex her political muscle, her interpersonal skills and her powers of persuasion on those (superiors, witnesses, colleagues…) whose approval, input or skills could be vital to the investigation – the one, in hopes of obstructing it, the other, to keep it flowing to a successful conclusion. We know from the start that Renee – who'd had the easiest possible start in the force and a shining example of virtue in the form of her father, a universally respected retired police chief, to follow – is rotten to the core (a manipulative, cynical, insatiably greedy, murderous bitch who's "built her organization over years. Using her father’s name, sex, bribery, threats, guile—whatever it takes. Including killing other cops”) and that Eve – whose start in the force (and indeed, life) was more troubled – is decent, capable of great empathy as well as kindness, and driven by a sense of duty. But that doesn't make her any less pitiless in the pit. Ordered by her superior, and egged on by the men and women around her (some unashamedly titillated by the situation and even exchanging bets on the outcome), to "take her down, and take her down hard", Eve accepts the assignment with relish. 
“Did you scare her?" asks the heroine's young female subordinate, Peabody, quite early in the proceedings. "I’m good with the embarrassed, pissed off, and undermined, but I’d really like her scared.”
Eve’s smile spread wide even as her eyes burned.
“Peabody, I put the fear of God into her.”


[DON'T READ ON IF YOU HAVEN'T YET READ THE BOOK]

It goes down, of course, the way it was bound to, but it's delicious all the same to watch. Although the forces ranged against her at the start seem slightly superior, Eve (who's witty, cunning and sexy as hell with it) proves the more resourceful general: she out-thinks, out-lasts, out-leads, out-manoeuvres and even out-politics Renee, tapping in to her own killer instinct, which she at no point disavows, as well as her righteous rage to take the other woman apart, goading her into mistakes, yanking her chain with mischievous, spiteful glee, invading her space, unnerving her, harassing, pressing, panicking her into error, undermining her authority, sapping the confidence of her subordinates in her leadership, shrewdly assessing their characters and their weaknesses, winning some to her cause, frightening others into turning state's evidence, baiting one into blowing his cool completely, driving a judicious wedge into her whole phalanx of henchmen until it fractures and they start killing each other, then laying careful traps for those that remain, until the general who sent them into those traps (her judgement by this time clouded, her lucidity chronically impaired) is isolated; at which point - though it's her opponent who issues the challenge, boasting she's been taking lessons in unarmed combat since she was five - Eve beats the shit out of her in what is, for the one, a fight to the death, and, for the other, to 'a fate worse than', initially in the intimacy of the Renee's office but, after the fight spills out into the rapidly filling squad-room, Eve delivers the coup de grace in front of half the NYPD.
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The final tableau has shades of Millais' 'Ophelia', only without the water and flowers: the blue-eyed girl of the department - steely, sexy, smart and ambitious – is lying glassy eyed on her back on the cold floor of the squad-room with her face busted (and her wrist, in all probability, broken as well), at which point she's subjected  to a further humiliation – a mild one, admittedly, measured against the mass-media, flashbulbs-exploding, prolonged public humiliation of the trial to come, and the manifold grinding indignities, the death by a thousand cuts, that await her as corrupt cop (and a tasty piece of arse at that) serving a life sentence in a New York prison, all of which fall outside the scope of the novel but can be taken as read, yet crueller in a way because it's in front of the people she's been working with but mostly climbing over all these years in her race to the top: in a gesture combining generosity with the merest hint of malice (though some might call it a sadistic last twist of the knife), Eve confers the glory of making the arrest, which God knows would look nice on anyone's record, to her young partner, whose report had triggered the enquiry in the first place, ordering her to do it with language the sexual undertones of which are deafening:
“She’s yours.”
“Huh?”
“I’m the one whose ears are ringing, for God’s sake. I said she’s yours. Your collar. Take her."

Which the rookie does ("with pleasure") bending down to slap the cuffs on the woman who would certainly have killed her or had her killed on the spot at the start of the book, when Peabody was naked in the shower, eavesdropping, hearing the lieutenant confess to ordering the murder of an informer, herself shaking with fear at what would happen if she were discovered, a woman who not only outranks her but is many years her senior – a woman with a hitherto unblemished record and 18 years on the force she had confidently expected some day to lead – before hauling her sorry, beaten carcass up off the floor. Someone else has to hold her steady as she is read her rights and "perp-walked" out.
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The undertones aren't lesbian. Oberman, we're told, can't relate to women but has been using her sex appeal throughout her career to further her ambitions (not to mention enslave and manipulate her goons). Eve uses hers too, cheerfully and unashamedly, as a fillip and to coax the man who'd do anything for her anyway – but who's not a cop and has no business, strictly speaking, being involved in the enquiry – into deploying his wealth, his contacts and his technological wizardry to hack security systems of all varieties and lay bare the complex network of numbered bank accounts, false identities and luxurious properties held under assumed names in exotic locations – into providing, in short, the evidence that will seal the case for the prosecution; but neither woman is a model of workplace propriety; Eve, like Renee, has let a work relationship complicate her task (each of them has an ex-lover in her squad making problems). Nor would Peabody herself rate an A++ from Human Resources; she, too, is having an affair with a male colleague.
But when it comes to bloodlust, it's a different story; that's woman on woman, man on man, and both diagonals; it may not be their sole or even main motivation, but bloodlust's shooting adrenaline into everyone's veins, driving all the principal characters – the antagonists, their lovers, Eve's subordinates, Renee's assassins – towards new personal bests, besides having everyone in the department who's in on the story but not involved feeling the rush and shuffling their metaphorical bottoms excitedly towards the edge of their seats. Not even their boss, the current commander, tasked with ensuring that rules are adhered to and that the eventual case will be bullet-proof in a court of law, is entirely immune to the drug, as he confesses plainly with this tongue-in-cheek rebuke to Eve at the end:
“It was unnecessary to engage in physical contact with the suspect, to break procedure and set aside your weapon, and do so when you clearly had the suspect under control.”
“Yes, sir.”
“Unnecessary,” he repeated, “but just. And I believe it was as satisfying to experience as it was to observe."

There's a strange moment, too, when his predecessor, Commander Oberman (retired), professor emeritus of ethical policing, paragon of virtue – Robert Mueller, James Comey and Jimmy Stewart all rolled into one – congratulates Eve on her bulldog tenacity, even though it's his own daughter's lovely thigh into which she's sunk her metaphorical teeth, and  - though he has no idea at this point which one of them is in the right - after the most half-hearted of half-hearted attempts to make peace, gives them (albeit obliquely) his blessing to fight it out:
“Even when I had the chair, I believed my officers should settle their own differences.”
Daddy refusing to grease the wheels? Eve thought. That had to chap Renee’s ass.
“Yes, sir. I agree.”

And whilst Renee's half-puppy-half-lover, Bix, the special forces reject, has his own psychoses, infinitely unhealthier and more pernicious than mere voyeurism, the curtain's barely risen before Eve's lover, her husband, is telling her how much he's enjoying the show:
“Would it help if I tell you how very entertaining—even arousing—it was for me to watch you metaphorically grind Renee into fuming dust to the tune of ‘Whiskey in the Jar.’”
“Maybe. It was fun.” She rolled her shoulders. “It was satisfying. More fun, more satisfying when it stops being metaphorical, but pretty damn entertaining.”
“And arousing?”
She shot him a quick, cocky grin.
“Maybe.”

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So at the end, with her prey cornered, Eve can hardly believe her luck when Renee slips out of her heels and challenges her to put down the weapon ("that makes you look weak") and fight her, hand to hand, woman to woman.
"Are you serious?"
Of all the responses, this was the last Eve expected. A shiny bubble of sheer joy rose up in her. "You want to dance with me?"

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Yep. A shiny bubble of sheer joy. The book's just that. I could get very used to watching Eve Dallas work…


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Re: catfights in literature
« Reply #54 on: August 23, 2020, 05:15:37 PM »
Would anyone be able to recommend any books where two female cops fight?  Kinda like the idea of female cop vs female cop
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Re: catfights in literature
« Reply #55 on: August 23, 2020, 05:31:56 PM »
Would anyone be able to recommend any books where two female cops fight?  Kinda like the idea of female cop vs female cop

It's a TV show, not a book, but check out NCIS Los Angeles Season 6 Episode 1.

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Re: catfights in literature
« Reply #56 on: August 24, 2020, 08:20:10 AM »
Would anyone be able to recommend any books where two female cops fight?  Kinda like the idea of female cop vs female cop
Er, I just did  ???
'Treachery in Death' (J.D.Robb)

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Re: catfights in literature
« Reply #57 on: August 24, 2020, 10:14:57 AM »
I have that one, was hoping that their might be other ones at well, maybe ones where they fight nude
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Re: catfights in literature
« Reply #58 on: August 24, 2020, 07:06:47 PM »
I have that one, was hoping that their might be other ones at well, maybe ones where they fight nude

Well, the only other books I've read are Robinson Crusoe and The Pilgrim's Progress – they made us read them in school – and there were no catfighting policewomen in either of those as far as I remember. Not naked ones at any rate. I haven't read Gulliver's Travels, so you might look there, but someone warned me they'll either be very small policewomen or very large ones. If it was one of each, I don't suppose it would be much of a fight.
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Re: catfights in literature
« Reply #59 on: September 22, 2020, 11:22:13 PM »
I read several of the early Gor books.  Seemed to me just about all of them had some catfight reference, some better some worse.  They varied from unskilled Kajira (female slave) catfights to skilled battle of the Panther Women (amazon warriors).  The other series that seemed to have some catfights was the Longarm series by Taber Evans.  I remember stumbling across this book in the library in the donated books section in High School.  At our library, you could just take these donated books and you gotta believe I took this one.  No idea if this was the only one with a catfight or if they all did.
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