[derek50]

Like most fans of organized catfighting, we recognize it as a serious contest between 2 females to demonstrate who is the dominant female just as occurs between males. The difference, and what makes catfighting so appealing to males (and many women spectators as well) is the feminine tactics unique to female v. female aggression that do not occur when males fight. Aside from anatomical differences, men do not pull hair or slap or (at least rarely, grab the crotch of their male opponent  for obvious reasons). And for me, watching women punch each other is not nearly as thrilling as seeing these ladies engage in a rules catfight.

So what are these tactics uniquely feminine in nature that should be allowed in rules catfighting. I believe that James and the ladies at CR have the right approach to achieve the electricity of a real catfight while minimizing serious injuries. First, the ladies who fight agree to the rules and may submit when they  can no longer continue to fight or defend themselves. These rules prohibit punching, biting, scratching, kicking, choking, gouging and box cutters (just kidding!). But most everything else is allowed with an emphasis on hair pulling, powerful slaps (not to the face) attacks to nipples and breasts and wedgies. The objective of these tactics seem to be a combination of inflicting pain and physical discomfort as well as psychological stress from humiliation.

One suggestion that has been offered to lessen the discomfort from a wedgie is to wear a thong of flimsy fabric that tears away. However, being stripped naked in public by another woman would strike me as extremely embarrassing to the victim who might no longer be willing to proceed fighting. Several of these ladies have replaced their torn thongs between rounds but what's to prevent a re-occurrence. As I mentioned in another post, the ladies can best decide the style of the panties they choose to wear, but it would seem that panties of soft stretchy fabric and with slightly more coverage between the thighs would be the best solution to lessen the pain of a wedgie digging into the vagina or from being forced exposure from being stripped naked. LADIES - YOUR OPINIONS ARE MOST WELCOME!

In general, I find that a wide array of uniquely feminine fighting tactics makes for a most exciting match - the more targets to attack requires more areas to defend. It is the experienced and talented woman who can probe her victim for vulnerabilities by a barrage of these varied attacks to intimidate and eventually cause her to weaken and yield to the more dominant female.  Rick

[TheWatchman504]

I like the older Catz Review fights before they started using the wrestling ring some of my favorites were Tooney vs Rocket and Jess vs the Boss. The scenario was  pretty much two hot chicks in a room with plenty of space fighting it out. They had to slap, pull hair and be able to physically endure the punishment and out last their opponent in those fights, there were no nipples being clawed which is just as bad as biting or scratching  in my opinion and no thongs being used as a weapon and the off camera people weren't constantly yelling for the girls to move away from the ropes and break up the natural flow of the fight. Those fights pre wrestling ring were some of the best I ever seen from Catz R.

[Willie Slick]

I too enjoyed the early CATZR fights pre-ring......but unlike my friends comments above.....feel the introduction of the ring......and the more aggressive dimension of breast attacks and wedgies to have been a find e improvement to the fights........in the earlier fights......the tactics were limited to hair pulling and slapping where the fights typically degraded into who could pull hair the hardest would determine the winner......now with wedgies and breast attacks......the girls can fight more equally because if one girls gets a good hair hold......her opponent can grab breasts or g string and force the hair release.......much more exciting and multi dimentional.......
I do agree that the ring should be a bit larger to keep the off camera cautions to a minimum.......the girls need room to fight and the ring seems to be getting smaller as the fights become more aggressive........so a larger ring.......or let the girls fight into the ropes ..........

[ROYALS22262]

Feminine tactics is what really is exciting to me.  A  womans body dominating another womans body!  BREAST SMOTHERING, FACE SITTING, REVERSE FACE SITTING, and FOOT SMOTHERING, are unique to womens fighting, sexy, and very hot to watch.  LEG SCISSORS, also is much hotter when it is two women battling.  I do not want to see blood, or anyone seriously hurt at all!  The smothering is more about domination and humiliation, and not pain or injury!!!

[herboyfriend]

In real life, two females having a go at each other may pull their hair, but they fight with their fists, not their boobs, and, no they'll hardly turn each other into sex slaves. For me, a kind of plausible and realistic looking emotional domination and humiliation aspect is quite a factor, and while I'm certainly not a fan of maimed limbs or damaged kidneys, still I think two girls starting to fight won't say, 'okay, this is a hair pulling and boob slapping contest. And the loser will pleasure the winner's pussy' ; they will simply try to dominate each other psychologically and physically arising from the situation - two angry girls -, I also find 'rules' apply to wrestling but not to catfighting really.       

[Gaelle]

A  womans body dominating another womans body!  BREAST SMOTHERING, FACE SITTING, REVERSE FACE SITTING, and FOOT SMOTHERING, are unique to womens fighting,

Sorry to disappoint you but it's more a male fantasy than a feminine tactic.  I won't deny women may like it, especially when they have a bi or lesbian nature but at first, it is not what they will look to use in a fight.

[herboyfriend]

Gaelle, you sum up so nicely what I mean to say in my roundabout way, yes, it's us males's sex fantasies and far removed from what what happens in a fight.   

[herboyfriend]

Gaelle, you sum up so nicely what I mean to say in my roundabout way, yes, it's us males's sex fantasies and far removed from what what happens in a fight.   

[ROYALS22262]

My scenarios, as much of a fantasy as they are, were also my reality.  We had rules in place, and the matches were more sensual, and more wrestling, or judo, then they were catfights.  We didn't want the women to have black eyes, busted lips, or bleed.  They didn't want that either.  The women were heterosexual, often wives.  They did get into the body to body contact.  The object was to make the other woman submit to the winners body.  So the tactics agreed upon were, BREAST SMOTHERING, FACE SITTING, REVERSE FACE SITTING and FOOT SMOTHERING.  The women tried to do these moves to each other.  We sometimes had point scoring for each of these moves as well!  This is what the men and other women wanted to see.  So, FANTASY it was, but, we made it a reality.  It was female combat for domination and superiority, and not for physical damage.  It was much more wrestling, grapling, then catfighting.  It was awesome to see!  It was very real, sane, combat.

[nova1274]

But see that's the thing! If it wasn't for the male putting his fantasys two cents in, then these woman , between themselves would more than likely not think of sex fighting/face sitting eachother.

[derek50]

I agree with much of what has been expressed as far as preferences for an emphasis on domination and humiliation rather than extreme violence. And while the posturing of a dominant female straddling her opponent may stimulate male fantasies about what these ladies are experiencing, the action itself is based upon the reality of what I and many others have witnessed when dominant women sit or squat astride their victim to render them less able to defend against further attacks. As a male, knowing what the 2 women in a match are actually experiencing would add tremendously to my appreciation of watching them struggle. I would also like to understand why ladies tend to not only enjoy watching females fight appear to do so with enthusiasm.

[hunter1985]

guys i read your posts and it seems you dont know what catfight is
your fantasy it is your fantasy .it is some kind of mens' invention about women contest.but we talk about catfight
you have watched probably the videos of such company like Crystal Films,Ecnwc,Bitchfight Uk,Catz Review and so on.so no need to mixture the sexual fantasies and real fights
why women fight is so attractive?including the blooding,scratching and all other things.it is two persons fight ..it is humna nature to fight
to dominate the other one.and the women is not exception

[derek50]

The female perspective is welcome and it confirms what I have suspected that much of what I find alluring about watching ladies fight is imagining their experience whether driven by reality or my fantasy or a combination.

This message chain seems to be confusing the definition of a genuine catfight with rules. A fight between 2 females is a type of "catfight". If spontaneous (e.g. at a bar) or planned (e.g. after school) it is a brawl with no rules and everything is allowed. As noted, these are usually short-lived until one female is beaten bloody, which I do not find appealing. A rules catfight is not spontaneous and is pre-arranged with both fighters agreeing to the tactics which can range from mere wrestling holds to including hair-pulling, slapping, breast attacks, etc. Obviously different from a street fight but still GENUINE in the sense it is not a scripted fight but involves 2 women struggling to determine who is the dominant female. Whether or not the rules agreed to by these ladies are prompted by males or their desire to please males or by the promoter of the catfight to sell videos is irrelevant to me so long as the women are not being exploited and they are seriously determined to dominate their rival using these tactics.

[ROYALS22262]

So it is agreed, that I think most men would rather see a sensual physical wrestling, grapling match, then a bloody, destructive, vicious damaging fight.....if it involves women they truly care about, or love.  If it is two women, that you have no attachment to, then a violent, heated, killer destructive fight might be stimulating and exciting in it's intensity and animal nature.  Like people enjoyed fights to the death in the Colliseum.  Just like so many of us gawk at accidents on the side of a highway, there is that dark side, that enjoys blood lust and violence.  I enjoy boxing and MMA fights too, watching trained, highly skilled combatants taking each other systematically apart.  BUT......when it involves women I care about, I do not want violence, I do not want damage.  The sensuality of women trying to dominate another female with her body is so hot.  YES, we came up with these rules, to more or less keep the women safe from real harm, and it was fantasy driven for the men who watched it.  The missing piece is, these women really enjoyed it too....on many levels. They enjoyed the competition.  They enjoyed the body to body contact.  They really enjoyed winning.  They mostly enjoyed turning their man, and the other men on!  IT was a FANTASY for them too!  It was not just about turning the men on...for just the men's sake, but in doing this....it really turned the women on!  EVERYBODY WINS.  The losing female always got a chance for revenge, even if it took a couple of times, so she could taste victory too!  So losers got to win....at least a little!  What is better than that.....everyone gets turned on, gets excited, and gets their needs met!  PERFECT!

[hunter1985]

So it is agreed, that I think most men would rather see a sensual physical wrestling, grapling match, then a bloody, destructive, vicious damaging fight.....if it involves women they truly care about, or love.  If it is two women, that you have no attachment to, then a violent, heated, killer destructive fight might be stimulating and exciting in it's intensity and animal nature.  Like people enjoyed fights to the death in the Colliseum.  Just like so many of us gawk at accidents on the side of a highway, there is that dark side, that enjoys blood lust and violence.  I enjoy boxing and MMA fights too, watching trained, highly skilled combatants taking each other systematically apart.  BUT......when it involves women I care about, I do not want violence, I do not want damage.  The sensuality of women trying to dominate another female with her body is so hot.  YES, we came up with these rules, to more or less keep the women safe from real harm, and it was fantasy driven for the men who watched it.  The missing piece is, these women really enjoyed it too....on many levels. They enjoyed the competition.  They enjoyed the body to body contact.  They really enjoyed winning.  They mostly enjoyed turning their man, and the other men on!  IT was a FANTASY for them too!  It was not just about turning the men on...for just the men's sake, but in doing this....it really turned the women on!  EVERYBODY WINS.  The losing female always got a chance for revenge, even if it took a couple of times, so she could taste victory too!  So losers got to win....at least a little!  What is better than that.....everyone gets turned on, gets excited, and gets their needs met!  PERFECT!

sorry but i dont understand your logic
now you are trying to seem like gentleman but not in that case.you say i like MMA fight when skilled men take apart each other but you dont want the same thing for a women just because they are women?because they are weak creature?so is it discrimination?