[sararwrestles]

I found this bit on about pwnage in fighting on the internet...

Pwnage isn't just losing a fight. These are situations where one
opponent significantly outclasses the other to the point of
embarrassment.

Qualifications
For the pwner, the battle usually involves a few of these things:
 
one-hit KO
flawless victories   
not breaking a sweat
a lack of focus/interest in the fight   
never using your high level attacks
being outnumbered but shrugging it off like, "meh"
decimation of your opponent after analyzing their abilities
not avoiding your enemies strongest attack and sustaining no injury outside of dirtied clothes, if that
letting your fists explain why your smack talk was an act of mercy,
not conceit, and that the opponent should have listened to you
 
For the pwnee, the battle usually involves selections from the
following:
 
planning and preparation
breaking out your best strategies and attacks   
knowing that nobody could possibly be that strong (and/or or that good)
pouring your heart into a battle with everything on the line and still getting squashed

I added the bit about still getting squashed.  Personally, I think I enjoy being the "pwnee" more than the "pwner" at least most of the time   I remember a girl on yahoo telling me one time that she loved it when her opponents "shocked" her with their strength and ability... and i thought yes... that seemed kind of hot to me too

so I'm wondering what you all think about the concept of doing the "pwning" or being "pwned" so to speak

[lilfightingcutie2]

I like ya new topic especially cause it brings up a different kinda tussler in the pwner. Ya don't gotta be a super to be a pwner. Just try to make sure the person ya tussling with is into it otherwise ya could end up looking like a super and ya opponent may not enjoy the match. It can be totally fun being either pwner or pwnee. I know I've done both with friends and it can be a new and fun change of pace from ya competitive matches. Love ya wrestling topics Sara!!! Keep up the great work!

[sararwrestles]

i can put down my opinion about "supering" here... to me "supering" is ignoring what the other person is doing and just doing what you want anyway... if you want to do a match that way... why do you even need someone else to do it with?

[lilfightingcutie2]

I totally agree Sara. Thats why I was trying to show the difference between pwners and supers cause it can be really easy if ya into pwning people to start supering. Just gotta be careful

[SexyNinja!]

I hate being pwned xD

Im usually the one pwning, but with how realistic I try to fight, I can just as easily wind up getting mah butt kicked.

[RedEnforcer]

I find that a lot of opponents who gravitate towards me tend to be pwnees.  I guess I give off that pwner vibe. Personally I enjoy more back and forth of a struggle, even some hope spots after a bad beating.  But when I notice my opponent falls into that pwnee category, I try to make it as fun for them as I can.  I tend to talk way more trash and be more flamboyant and cocky with my moves when I am against a pwnee, hoping to really give them what they seem to want, a big one sided fight where the outcome was never in doubt.

Again tho, pwnees won't outright tell you that's what they are for the most part. It's a feeling out process and paying attention to any openings they give you or openings you give them that they pass on. My matches with a new fighter usually start out slow in the beginning so I can get a feel for what their style and likes are. Once I figure out they're a pwnee tho, I start building momentum. Small moves go to bigger moves go to splashier power moves.  Sprinkle in some submission holds if they like. (Some love those, some want the big moves instead). And then one big final move/hold to seal the deal.

It can be a lot of fun, especially if you have chemistry with your opponent.

[cooper4]

Sara, are you talking about cyber fighting or irl...or both?.

[Nutmeg]

Usually when I have done it to people its been just me being able to counter everything the other person can think of doing and not allowing them to get any momentum. Eventually it becomes me doing what I wish in the match, And always it was never the intention it just happens that way. You have a real good day and/or they have a really bad one. There is also the psychological aspect: if someone believes you have their number they just tend to go along for the ride and enjoy (well enjoy maybe not so much ).

One incident stunned me since it was our second match. Usually when people know what I am about they make sure they bring their best and aren't surprised. And this person was extremely capable. But the match..she could get nothing going on me and it ended up with me working through her favorite holds to end matches with, to her chagrin.

[RedEnforcer]

Usually when I have done it to people its been just me being able to counter everything the other person can think of doing and not allowing them to get any momentum. Eventually it becomes me doing what I wish in the match, And always it was never the intention it just happens that way. You have a real good day and/or they have a really bad one. There is also the psychological aspect: if someone believes you have their number they just tend to go along for the ride and enjoy (well enjoy maybe not so much ).

One incident stunned me since it was our second match. Usually when people know what I am about they make sure they bring their best and aren't surprised. And this person was extremely capable. But the match..she could get nothing going on me and it ended up with me working through her favorite holds to end matches with, to her chagrin.

You can't ever understate the psychological aspect.  There's this one person I've fought and rp'd with many many times and she for the most part is a very capable fighter.  However, there are times in the match after a good back and forth when it just seems like she has done everything she could think of to take me out, but I answered her.  After that one last counter, her defenses just crumble and she's unable to stop me as I went move to move in a sequence designed to lead up to a finisher that would force her to submit.  If you watch pro wrestling especially back in the day, it's as methodical as NWA Ric Flair slowly working over his opponent's leg to prep them for the figure four (instead of like nowadays when it's one devastating shot on the leg and then one or two followups and then the submission hold).  As I'm working her over, I just know she's wishing she could stop me, but another side of her is glad that she can't, that has submitted already.  In that case, her reactions to my holds get even more descriptive and intense which makes the whole match more fun for the both of us.

In my fights with her, I've noticed that we just have this chemistry in such a way that you would think with the number of times we've fought each other we'd be tired of it or just know what's coming and yet it never really works out that way and builds into a really long and intense fight.  Usually she's the pwnee, but only after a good give and take and you would probably never think of her as a "jobber" in the classic sense. It's just that she hits that psychological wall and then it all turns against her.

[Gaelle]

I like back and forth matches but at the end one must have the upper hand.  Usually i don't care if it is me or my  opponent.  most time I enjoy both roles if I feel a good chemistery with my opponent.  The ending of a match is just the ending .  A match is fun if it is enjoyable for both from start to end.
I think normal if the  winner dominates the last four or five moves.  It reflects the reality when one takes finally the advantage over the other;   I don't like so much situations when you have your  opponent in a submission hold and she spends 10 posts resisting before giving up.  After a while you just copy and paste your last post waiting she finally says the word
And, of course, you psychological mood is important.  Sometimes and with some opponents you'd like to lose the match..or win it;  It is not jobbering as long as the most part of the match is back and forth..which means the dominant one mut always let a door open for a conter.
But i don't like those who are so technically perfect that they give you no chance from the start.  If you are like that, your only opponents would be jobbers.

[RedEnforcer]

That's a great summation Gaelle.  To me, a good match is like a good story. There's the introduction where the opponents come out.  The match starting and building to the climax which is the point where one competitor is obviously in control and begins dominance. With the end of the match being the ending. The high point for me in most matches is that rush of back and forth to see who's going to be dominant. I don't mind losing if that beginning part has been a lot of fun.

[Amazon_Victoria]

Hmm, to add my two cents, I've lost, but never been pwned, as you describe it hun. But I've certainly pwned quite a few challengers myself, and of those I'v super'ed quite a few as well. One thing I really like to do when I'm gaining traction after a back and forth match, is to start use some of the opponents favored moves against them.

There are a few things you can add to the pwner criteria hun;
1) Sort of a combination between the uncaring and easy win, would be telling your opponent what you're going to do to them. Predestination maybe? Especially if you can dictate to them the entire match.
2) Another would be using humiliating moves. Grapevines, surfboard stretches, scissoring (both kinds if it's that type of fight), and then there's good old fashioned smothering and facesitting. One of my favorites is tiring them out, and then just sitting on her. That's it. Not a pin, just planting my ass down on her. Back or stomach, doesn't matter hun. At six foot, I'm nowhere near the spring chicken weight class, so it takes a pretty good deal of effort to move me anyway. So when you're tired after a fiveteen minute workout? Forget it hun.

[CA Sleeper]

Hmm, to add my two cents, I've lost, but never been pwned, as you describe it hun. But I've certainly pwned quite a few challengers myself, and of those I'v super'ed quite a few as well. One thing I really like to do when I'm gaining traction after a back and forth match, is to start use some of the opponents favored moves against them.

There are a few things you can add to the pwner criteria hun;
1) Sort of a combination between the uncaring and easy win, would be telling your opponent what you're going to do to them. Predestination maybe? Especially if you can dictate to them the entire match.
2) Another would be using humiliating moves. Grapevines, surfboard stretches, scissoring (both kinds if it's that type of fight), and then there's good old fashioned smothering and facesitting. One of my favorites is tiring them out, and then just sitting on her. That's it. Not a pin, just planting my ass down on her. Back or stomach, doesn't matter hun. At six foot, I'm nowhere near the spring chicken weight class, so it takes a pretty good deal of effort to move me anyway. So when you're tired after a fiveteen minute workout? Forget it hun.

Thanks for sharing  your experiences!  Really detailed.  I love your posts!
 ;-)

[Amazon_Victoria]

Hmm, to add my two cents, I've lost, but never been pwned, as you describe it hun. But I've certainly pwned quite a few challengers myself, and of those I'v super'ed quite a few as well. One thing I really like to do when I'm gaining traction after a back and forth match, is to start use some of the opponents favored moves against them.

There are a few things you can add to the pwner criteria hun;
1) Sort of a combination between the uncaring and easy win, would be telling your opponent what you're going to do to them. Predestination maybe? Especially if you can dictate to them the entire match.
2) Another would be using humiliating moves. Grapevines, surfboard stretches, scissoring (both kinds if it's that type of fight), and then there's good old fashioned smothering and facesitting. One of my favorites is tiring them out, and then just sitting on her. That's it. Not a pin, just planting my ass down on her. Back or stomach, doesn't matter hun. At six foot, I'm nowhere near the spring chicken weight class, so it takes a pretty good deal of effort to move me anyway. So when you're tired after a fiveteen minute workout? Forget it hun.

Thanks for sharing  your experiences!  Really detailed.  I love your posts!
 ;-)

Thanks hun. Glad to be appreciated.

[Mari-Angelina]

"pwnage"?  Is this the same thing as the jobber discussion?