[maine516]

Your welcome JT.  I'm enjoying hunting down and reading JT's books so I figured I'd share my findings.  My hope is that others will periodically post their findings so we can cover all, or almost all of his books the contain (and don't contain) catfights and have a pretty complete list. 

I'm currently reading "Fearless Master of the Jungle".   As I've already pointed out, it does contain one better than average catfight which I came across in skimming the book.  I'm reading the whole book to enjoy the build up and more details concerning the characters.  As I also pointed out, this may be JT's most frustrating book in the sense that the ultimate catfight between Dawn Drummond-Clayton and the warrior woman Charole comes very close to happening, but ends hinting that it will happen in a continuation of the series.  But this ends up being the last book (or so it appears)!  Just for an example of the let down, DDC is described as being 5 foot 8 inches tall and having a magnificent body with 38-20-36 measurements and Charole being 5 foot 9 inches tall and also having a magnificent body with 39-21-37 measurements.  The two superbly conditioned women with strong fighting skills are running around the jungle with very brief clothing and as hated enemies - and the ultimate fight does not happen!  Thankfully, Charole has 2 fights and one is the very good catfight with the warrior-woman Shushi.

[CoffeeMug]

Just wanted to post that I was sitting here and suddenly got very bummed, all over again, that the Dawn-Charole fight never happened.

Okay, continue on with your day.

[sinclairfan]

I often get bummed by Alice Fayde's subpar fight career.

[maine516]

You had to remind me about the Dawn-Charole climatic battle not happening.....thanks.  Now I'm bummed again too!  I'm sitting here wishing JT had a son or a follower who would carry on the writing torch and publish the Amazon's of Zillikian.   Man, what a letdown!

I've only read FMOJ from the Bunduki series.  Charole was the real female fighting star in that book, not DDC.  I've seen it written that Sacrifice for the Quagga God has 3 female fights, but I don't have the book (it's very pricey).  Do you know anything about these fights?

Alice Fayde had 1 really good fight with a woman named Cora I believe - in a chapter from one of the JT's Ladies books (can't recall which one at the moment).  But her fight in The Deputies was a real letdown after such a great build up.  I was hoping for more from her too.

I do have some good news - I just finished "Beguinage is Dead".  There is a better than average catfight in this book between Amelia Benkinsop (blonde) and Charlene, Comtesse de Petain brunette).  Both 5'7", equally voluptuous and tough.  You can tell early on (Amelia is introduced on page 37 and Charlene on page 43) there is going to be a rivalry and ultimately a fight between them.  The fight takes place in private inside a small stable.  They fight in tights and end up topless.  They even wrestle topless over a pitchfork between them.  I would count it as one of my favorites except that the best part of the fight is limited to a couple of paragraphs.  Still, a good build up and a fairly long fight.  And they do not become friends in any way following the fight.  Towards the end, they have a shootout with revolvers.

[maine516]

I may be wrong about Alice Fayde vs Cora.  That may have actually been Rita Yarborough vs Cora.  I can't recall and I'm too lazy to check at the moment.  Sorry if I've misled.

[coachzzz]

It was Rita vs. Cora-Ann from More JT Ladies.   Excellent scene.  See pages 6 and 7 from this thread. 

[sinclairfan]

Amelia- Charlene "Beguinage is Dead" fight:

Pro's:
(1) The fight happens in private in a miniature pony barn with hay
(2) Both women are clothed in tight riding wear with leather gloves
(3) Both know how to fight

Con's
(1) Midway thru, a foreign object (a pitchfork) is introduced
(2) The villainess is allowed to continue her plot, so unclear what the purpose of the fight was

[CoffeeMug]

FYI that fight sinclairfan is talking about is in Texas Killers, available on Kindle.

[Mindcastle]

Just wanted to post that I was sitting here and suddenly got very bummed, all over again, that the Dawn-Charole fight never happened.

Okay, continue on with your day.

@CoffeeMug

Based on your previous stories, I believe that you have the talent to a develop a Dawn-Charole fight along the story lines.  Who knows, we may have a successor to J.T. Edson. Why don't you give it a try?

[Blogger348]

Just wanted to post that I was sitting here and suddenly got very bummed, all over again, that the Dawn-Charole fight never happened.

Okay, continue on with your day.

@CoffeeMug

Based on your previous stories, I believe that you have the talent to a develop a Dawn-Charole fight along the story lines.  Who knows, we may have a successor to J.T. Edson. Why don't you give it a try?

This sounds like a great idea. CoffeeMug did an outstanding job with 'Swampland'! This fight would be of the same genre both in terms of the semi-primitive environment; attractive and fiercely competitive women
combatants, as well as, the desire to fight each other until there is no question as to which is the better woman. Of course, it should be a non-lethal fight with one woman left battered and bruised but not so much so that her spirit is completely broken and she lives to fight another day.

[CoffeeMug]

Aw, well thanks guys.  Right now I'm having a hard enough time putting together the next story for Swampland (beginning and end are basically done, but it needs a middle), but I'll keep it in mind.

[maine516]

Sorry, no great catfight news to report.  Just an update a couple of books.  The Return of Rapido Clint And Mr J. G. Reeder does have a catfight between Rita Yarborough and Lady Mary Herban which was probably quite good, except that JT decided not to describe the main part of the fight.  Very strange.  There is no relationship or rivalry between the women, which is a detraction.  Lady Mary is one of the bad guys but her character is not really a main part of the plot.  She has a 'staged" catfight with a Molly Nickerson at the Pinhole Club's "Catfight Night", but it is only mentioned briefly after it actually happened.  The fight between Rita and Lady Mary has a nice catty build-up and a nice start to the fight, then it's like one of those movies where the fight happens off stage and you see the women only after the fight is over.  He left out describing all of the middle of the fight.  Very disappointing as both are tough and attractive women and it appeared to be a long, even battle.  Given that most of the fight is not described, I wouldn't recommend getting the book.

I'm currently reading The Remittance Kid starring Belle Boyd.  Unless I missed it doing a skim through, there is no catfight. This would be the second book I've come across with Belle Boyd in a main role not having a catfight.  Again, disappointing.

I also just received 2 more books: The Fortune Hunters and The Drifter.  There appears to be a decent, but not great catfight in the former and a brief, below average catfight in the latter.  More on these 2 later.

[CoffeeMug]

Broke down and ordered Fearless Master of the Jungle last night.

[maine516]

I think you'll not be disappointed in FMJ.  Charole is an amazing fighting character.  The one painfully agonizing loss is the foreshadowing of the future ultimate battle between Dawn and Charole that is most likely in the 5th book in the series that was never published.

Also, I'm confirming that The Remittance Kid (with Belle Boyd) has no catfight.  The book, which is in my view bogged down by way too much detail analysis of every action (one of JT's periodic writing flaws), is actually the preceding story to The Whip and the Warlance , with many of the key characters, which of course has a pretty good catfight.   

I'm now on to The Fortune Hunters.

[CoffeeMug]

Got Fearless Master of the Jungle today.  It has one major catfight (between Charole/Carol and Shushi, whom you should not be shocked to learn is similar to an "Oriental" in appearance and struggles to say her "el" sounds) and lots of tension between Charole/Carol and Dawn.  You also get a nice conversation between Charole/Carol and Shushi/Sushi after their fight, during which they have to pretend to get along, which I quite liked.

I'd say the fight is excellent in its opening and closing and very good in the middle.  I also give the book high marks for all the tension between the women.  Not quite worth what I paid for it on Amazon, but then, what is?