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« on: January 20, 2019, 08:24:10 AM »
Not sure how far this is going to go but if you missed the news in last few days, you tube is going to start banning ALL clips and videos containing people doing challenges and or causing self inflicting harm or harm to others, this is all do to the brainless people doing that bird box challenge, or the inhaling of a propane gas and lighting their breath on fire( yes I believe society more over younger generation is doomed) at any rate while it was not specified the news stated ANY videos you tube felt falls in these parameters will be banned, so I am certain the days of gangs of kids capturing a Catfighting are going to be over due to the new violence protocol. Society is it’s own worse enemy

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« Reply #1 on: January 20, 2019, 10:24:19 AM »
Somehow I am not surprised. Everything has been heading this way, especially in the post FOSTA/SESTA era. Looks like YouTube is the next one to fall in line. We are becoming more and more like China every day with regards to our internet policies. It's scary and sad honestly.

Hi!

May I weigh in, as somebody, I don't know, who lived in an actual dictatorship, and whose country has fallen back into autocracy where having a different opinion lands you (for now) on a company's list whose job is to monitor social media posts and where elected officials can be beaten without repercussions? I'll consider comparing when it'll be even remotely close. China... next year, Shanghai will be the first city to use facial recognition in addition to the massive data mining they already do to reward their own citizens or punish them based on previous actions, and among the 67 reasons to get a death sentence (unless they since amended it), selling rotten produce is one of them.
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« Reply #2 on: January 20, 2019, 12:08:45 PM »
Somehow I am not surprised. Everything has been heading this way, especially in the post FOSTA/SESTA era. Looks like YouTube is the next one to fall in line. We are becoming more and more like China every day with regards to our internet policies. It's scary and sad honestly.

In case you haven't noticed Youtube is a private company. So saying this is like China is a bit whiny no? A private company wishing to reduce the possibility  of criminal charges and civil litigation isn't exactly badthink. You may as well be pissed at a toy company that removes a choking hazard because you like the toy and are aroused by choking.

If I was Youtube I would be crapping my pants every time anyone with significant numbers does a livestream in fear that today is the day they do something stupid and broadcast and actual serious injury or death. All Youtube is doing is trying to show self regulation so that law enforcement/lawmakers don't feel the need to do it for them. And if your main concern is you may indirectly lose some fap material (that really was kind of questionable being there in the first place) consider the alternative. You could lose the whole thing via a lawsuit and/or actual government regulation.

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« Reply #3 on: January 20, 2019, 06:56:16 PM »
Somehow I am not surprised. Everything has been heading this way, especially in the post FOSTA/SESTA era. Looks like YouTube is the next one to fall in line. We are becoming more and more like China every day with regards to our internet policies. It's scary and sad honestly.

Hi!

May I weigh in, as somebody, I don't know, who lived in an actual dictatorship, and whose country has fallen back into autocracy where having a different opinion lands you (for now) on a company's list whose job is to monitor social media posts and where elected officials can be beaten without repercussions? I'll consider comparing when it'll be even remotely close. China... next year, Shanghai will be the first city to use facial recognition in addition to the massive data mining they already do to reward their own citizens or punish them based on previous actions, and among the 67 reasons to get a death sentence (unless they since amended it), selling rotten produce is one of them.

I understand where you are coming from, but I fully believe we are heading in a very similar direction. We may not EXACTLY be on that level, but we're getting there. To me, it's honestly just a matter of time.

Most democracies are flawed, I don't debate that, but the usual ideas how a dictatorship comes to life is wrong. The things you cherish most is the last taken away from you, because you need to use them to mindlessly support the regime. So every time a company protects their own interests, which is already not covered by the First as it regulates your relations with the state and your freedom to worship, not your relation with private companies (which is why any shop which has a storefront can't refuse service) it is not a first step.

Making you believe that you shouldn't trust anyone who criticizes who you voted for, is. The economic decision is simple. One side of the youth uses social media to exchange ideas, to organize. The other side uses it for stupid sh*t that gets them killed. It's a criminal liability on the uploader and the content provider.

I love catfight videos, but I'm not sad if it's not uncontrolled. Simply because a paid participants video is a fantasy, where a street brawl is the same assault as two sports beating on each other drunk. It's still endorsement to violence that they can't do. Whichever I don't really care Logan just said last week that in March "he will go gay". He's the douche who vlogged the hanged body from Japan. Unfettered, the next time he will pay someone to hanfg themselves, so he can stream it.

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« Reply #4 on: January 20, 2019, 07:43:00 PM »
Somehow I am not surprised. Everything has been heading this way, especially in the post FOSTA/SESTA era. Looks like YouTube is the next one to fall in line. We are becoming more and more like China every day with regards to our internet policies. It's scary and sad honestly.

Hi!

May I weigh in, as somebody, I don't know, who lived in an actual dictatorship, and whose country has fallen back into autocracy where having a different opinion lands you (for now) on a company's list whose job is to monitor social media posts and where elected officials can be beaten without repercussions? I'll consider comparing when it'll be even remotely close. China... next year, Shanghai will be the first city to use facial recognition in addition to the massive data mining they already do to reward their own citizens or punish them based on previous actions, and among the 67 reasons to get a death sentence (unless they since amended it), selling rotten produce is one of them.

I understand where you are coming from, but I fully believe we are heading in a very similar direction. We may not EXACTLY be on that level, but we're getting there. To me, it's honestly just a matter of time.

Most democracies are flawed, I don't debate that, but the usual ideas how a dictatorship comes to life is wrong. The things you cherish most is the last taken away from you, because you need to use them to mindlessly support the regime. So every time a company protects their own interests, which is already not covered by the First as it regulates your relations with the state and your freedom to worship, not your relation with private companies (which is why any shop which has a storefront can't refuse service) it is not a first step.

Making you believe that you shouldn't trust anyone who criticizes who you voted for, is. The economic decision is simple. One side of the youth uses social media to exchange ideas, to organize. The other side uses it for stupid sh*t that gets them killed. It's a criminal liability on the uploader and the content provider.

I love catfight videos, but I'm not sad if it's not uncontrolled. Simply because a paid participants video is a fantasy, where a street brawl is the same assault as two sports beating on each other drunk. It's still endorsement to violence that they can't do. Whichever I don't really care Logan just said last week that in March "he will go gay". He's the douche who vlogged the hanged body from Japan. Unfettered, the next time he will pay someone to hanfg themselves, so he can stream it.

We will still have Pornhub, XHamster and other sites.

You make fair points, and I don't mean to say I endorse exactly people causing harm and benefiting from it, because in a catfight sense for the purposes of this, much as I like a fight, when it's out of control I struggle with it morally and ethically too. Even if again the primal side of me gets hot from it. Just the ramifications of stuff like this happening scares me some, even just beyond sex being clamped down on. I feel it can be taken to extremes if allowed to unchecked, going from obvious harm to subjective. Does that explain my position (and my other message for that matter too to Meg) better?

Well, I'm not her spokesperson, she probably will get back on that ;) Here's a core difference between here and other places where it's OK to discard rights along the logic "if I don't need them, who else cares, if they're not present?" Paradoxically that's a huge issue in America, a lot of things are being decided by those unaffected, and it's usually a minority having to live with it. That's just saying having something on paper is worthless if its spirit is empty. The constitution providing the most freedoms in the world was that of the USSR in the late '30s, it was a ruse to prove that "rumors" of genocide aren't true, nor was any other implication they brutalize their own people.

Although streaming services, thanks to the high speed internet started to offer an alternative to traditional media content, but let's be real here: in America, advertisers like their money spent in places where you can measure how many had seen it. Google is the type of organization that likes to have its departments compete internally, so YouTube is forced to play nice. Acknowledging that money follows large groups with sensibilities, like those of religious decree is but the epitome of capitalism.

Every time the Christian right gains a lot by having their guy in the WH, advertisers want to avoid lawsuits, so they appease them, and whether we like it or not, they don't like scantily clad women and erotic violence, it's not PG, it's not wholesome. You're right about one thing, namely if a group gets large enough, it acts like a state. It can be a church or a company, slow and bureaucratic, but only the state can invoke authoritarian visions for everyone.
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« Reply #5 on: January 20, 2019, 10:14:31 PM »
Somehow I am not surprised. Everything has been heading this way, especially in the post FOSTA/SESTA era. Looks like YouTube is the next one to fall in line. We are becoming more and more like China every day with regards to our internet policies. It's scary and sad honestly.

In case you haven't noticed Youtube is a private company. So saying this is like China is a bit whiny no? A private company wishing to reduce the possibility  of criminal charges and civil litigation isn't exactly badthink. You may as well be pissed at a toy company that removes a choking hazard because you like the toy and are aroused by choking.

If I was Youtube I would be crapping my pants every time anyone with significant numbers does a livestream in fear that today is the day they do something stupid and broadcast and actual serious injury or death. All Youtube is doing is trying to show self regulation so that law enforcement/lawmakers don't feel the need to do it for them. And if your main concern is you may indirectly lose some fap material (that really was kind of questionable being there in the first place) consider the alternative. You could lose the whole thing via a lawsuit and/or actual government regulation.

And herein lies the problem. Are they a private company? One could make that argument I suppose sure. Same as with a Twitter, a Tumblr, a Craigslist, or any other site that has seen policy changes over time with regards to what is allowed on the service or is not. That isn't the issue here. If it was as simple as that I'd have no problem with this or changes elsewhere similar. The thing is, the changes made are not simply them making a decision of their own accord, but rather done based off a fear of regulation against them. That's my main issue with all of this. It's not because they're doing it that I don't like it, it's because of WHY and who is influencing it. That is to say, the government. And when a government can hold that much power here as to be able to control what shows up where and to what extent that it does, that is a big issue and one we really should be concerned about if we value our rights to express ourselves freely. Every time this happens, we lose those all the more, and eventually it will get to a point where there isn't much left.

We have to look at the bigger picture around stuff like this. These aren't merely business decisions, they are ones driven by law. I know this will be argued against, but that's how I see it.

So I have to explain to you how companies work now? Sealion much?

I mentioned the fear of criminal and legal action brought about by private individuals as a concern too. Is that the government with too much control too? Should a grieving mothers only recourse be to shoot down Youtube employees in the street until the higher ups go "Hmm maybe we need to stop this " How about fear of advertisers pulling out being the source of Youtube's concern? Most corporate business decisions are based on EXTERNAL forces so you are not going to get too many businesses making this decision based on the pure goodness of their hearts.

I am willing to bet you are someone who feels companies are soulless and heartless and need to be held accountable. Guess what, the law and/or other soulless companies are usually the best way to do that. Given the sheer size of many of these entities it is difficult for mere consumer power to do anything quickly.

There are quite a few nations with powerless governments but I sense you will not find them pleasant places to live in. Strangely the day to day living gets influenced by alpha males with guns instead of nice men and women reviling in their freedom.

If you have a Wild West, someone will want to be your sheriff. Now your fear is that an elected body which generally follows rule of law might be that sheriff. Trust me there are FAR worse people that could do that.

In the end I am happy Youtube is taking steps to not have people do acts that might get themselves or others hurt. Sure I would love them to do it because they are real nice guys but I live in the real world. Hell all this discussion is based on a POSSIBLE reaction. Most catfight videos get pulled from there based on pesky things like oh copyright law? If some idiot jerking off to underage girls in a 30 second  fight has to go elsewhere for that kick no tears will be shed here.



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« Reply #6 on: January 20, 2019, 10:49:02 PM »
I have an opinion and it falls on both sides of a valid discussion, however the thing that apparently “required” it to be news worthy as I went back was there was an adult male issuing challenges to kids under 18 he used a list almost like a scavenger hunt style after whatever kid checked in with video of meeting his some crazy some stupid challenges he made a score board and sent out the next challenge , ALL these ended in a suicide challenge in which he told the viewers it was ok to take it to the limit nothing would come of it and he would Guarantee like a 1 million views ( which to kids today is like being on a sitcom) at least 3 youths ended their life by a hanging, over dose, and a fall/ jump off a building, now while I can agree our FCC and FaceBook and Twitter and whatever other platforms are out there kids use, yes we need a level of not law but someone to take a stand and stop making these moronic stunts something of fame, so like it or not it starts at HOME , if you have not seen the movie yet and if you are a parent or not go rent the movie “ searching” it hits home just how much out of touch a parent who is on top of their kid is, I won’t spoil it but pay attention cause even though I am slightly computer savvy this movie had me sitting in shock at what the parent learned, and that’s the issue
. now when I was younger , cell phones were just coming known to public my point being just cause we had a strict Italian family at home once we left the boundaries of home it was free for all and you rolled the dice of getting caught or in trouble BUT if you were caught you paid the price for some unknown reason it seems today parents wanna be their kids buddy or friend instead of a parent so these kids have no moral compass, no strict guidance , the only fear a parent can instill is disconnect the device , but cause of the fame factor kids will use that magic fear word “ depressed “ and then the parent pets them and lets it go, but coin, phone videos are all at the heart of this , honestly my kids did not get any device till 16 my oldest that is and I never had to worry some cult like idiot put a challenge out, if anyone’s child needs to have sucking on propane and lighting it is bad you tube or not that parent FAILED and as a result the companies providing the entertainment Avenue have to be the grown up and take it away just my view as a mom who cares . My intent for the post was to make ya’all aware of the noose tightening on people who use these “ products” the right way or for self private use.

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« Reply #7 on: January 20, 2019, 10:50:18 PM »
I am willing to bet you are someone who feels companies are soulless and heartless and need to be held accountable. Guess what, the law and/or other soulless companies are usually the best way to do that. Given the sheer size of many of these entities it is difficult for mere consumer power to do anything quickly.

There are quite a few nations with powerless governments but I sense you will not find them pleasant places to live in. Strangely the day to day living gets influenced by alpha males with guns instead of nice men and women reviling in their freedom.

If you have a Wild West, someone will want to be your sheriff. Now your fear is that an elected body which generally follows rule of law might be that sheriff. Trust me there are FAR worse people that could do that.

I tend to disagree with that. I feel as though governments themselves are more soulless than any one individual alone might be (even the worst of them), given the power they wield and what they do with it when they have it, more than they are benevolent. I believe they care for themselves and their own power more than anything else, regardless of what they may say to the contrary. I suppose it's best to be left there. I simply don't trust them to do much of anything for good and moral reasons, even those that on the surface appear as much or even might actually be in and of themselves such as something like this let's say. I'd love to believe different, but their actions/inactions on a regular basis make that difficult if not impossible.

Not that that means exactly I condone others acting out in absence of someone to stop them, that is just as bad as them doing so. But because one group does bad without them, doesn't necessarily mean what they do themselves is automatically good or noble either. They can both be equally bad in their own ways.

I bet you are so naive that you see yourself as left wing and not the FAR right supporter you really are :) But then that would be giving you credit with political thought beyond "me hate government. " I mean you state govt INACTIONS give you reason not to trust them. So hold on first you are spouting off you want no govt action then claim their inaction is an issue? Congrats on winning the 50 M backpedal race.

But your whole answer is a whole lot of wishy washy hand waving which confirms my suspicions: Your political thought process hasn't gone beyond "Me hate government. " Why don't you engage that nice person Youtube (for they legally are a person ) and ask them why they made their decision. And if you had any encounters with actual horrible people you would realize your view of government being the worst thing out there is so very wrong.  Hell I just realized you are likely against public health care since "I don't trust no government " LOL
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« Reply #8 on: January 20, 2019, 11:20:09 PM »
Thanks for confirming the second part of my reply that you chose to ignore, Adam.

Dotti, the Youtube celebrity is a recent and weird phenomena. I have seen people will far less views than a million act like they are ona  Brad Pitt level of celebrity and a lot of the fans act like these people are their pals. Which leads to people wanting to be part of the entourage as it were. I agree a lot of it is poor parenting but Youtube wisely doesn't want the same poor parents to sue or charge their asses off. How Youtube chooses to implement it is on them and we shall see where that goes. 
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« Reply #9 on: January 20, 2019, 11:46:34 PM »
I have an opinion and it falls on both sides of a valid discussion, however the thing that apparently “required” it to be news worthy as I went back was there was an adult male issuing challenges to kids under 18 he used a list almost like a scavenger hunt style after whatever kid checked in with video of meeting his some crazy some stupid challenges he made a score board and sent out the next challenge , ALL these ended in a suicide challenge in which he told the viewers it was ok to take it to the limit nothing would come of it and he would Guarantee like a 1 million views ( which to kids today is like being on a sitcom) at least 3 youths ended their life by a hanging, over dose, and a fall/ jump off a building, now while I can agree our FCC and FaceBook and Twitter and whatever other platforms are out there kids use, yes we need a level of not law but someone to take a stand and stop making these moronic stunts something of fame, so like it or not it starts at HOME , if you have not seen the movie yet and if you are a parent or not go rent the movie “ searching” it hits home just how much out of touch a parent who is on top of their kid is, I won’t spoil it but pay attention cause even though I am slightly computer savvy this movie had me sitting in shock at what the parent learned, and that’s the issue
. now when I was younger , cell phones were just coming known to public my point being just cause we had a strict Italian family at home once we left the boundaries of home it was free for all and you rolled the dice of getting caught or in trouble BUT if you were caught you paid the price for some unknown reason it seems today parents wanna be their kids buddy or friend instead of a parent so these kids have no moral compass, no strict guidance , the only fear a parent can instill is disconnect the device , but cause of the fame factor kids will use that magic fear word “ depressed “ and then the parent pets them and lets it go, but coin, phone videos are all at the heart of this , honestly my kids did not get any device till 16 my oldest that is and I never had to worry some cult like idiot put a challenge out, if anyone’s child needs to have sucking on propane and lighting it is bad you tube or not that parent FAILED and as a result the companies providing the entertainment Avenue have to be the grown up and take it away just my view as a mom who cares . My intent for the post was to make ya’all aware of the noose tightening on people who use these “ products” the right way or for self private use.

I get your point Dotti, yet there are exceptions. Sample videos by their owner advertising a product doesn't fal into that category, plus, even though I hate the guy because he was an immoral thief, but Thomas Edison was a catfight fan. His female fighting shorts are in the Library of Congress for preservation.
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« Reply #10 on: January 21, 2019, 03:04:48 AM »
I never said it was ALL the parenting but it starts there, home life is the first line of action, as far as the government commnet, Ihave no idea how that plays into this, other than thinking they force what they deam important on us, so rather than making it a political mash up I agree you rube is playing Cover your ass (meaning theirs), anf frankly it may piss us off but if we were in their shoes I am sure we would be out o do the same, that said I also feel America is a lot more scared or maybe snobish? on fetishesand sex as compared to say Europe, everything the masses don't agree with is taboo including the female fight scene, look how long it took to put Women in combat, eventually fighting will peak from the shadow openly over shh style it is, but rest assure the gaming commisions and betting tables will want a cut, then you tube will have a ploicy change I feel

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« Reply #11 on: January 21, 2019, 10:21:39 AM »
I never said it was ALL the parenting but it starts there, home life is the first line of action, as far as the government comment, I have no idea how that plays into this, other than thinking they force what they deem important on us, so rather than making it a political mash up I agree you rube is playing Cover your ass (meaning theirs), and frankly it may piss us off but if we were in their shoes I am sure we would be out o do the same, that said I also feel America is a lot more scared or maybe snobish? on fetishes and sex as compared to say Europe, everything the masses don't agree with is taboo including the female fight scene, look how long it took to put Women in combat, eventually fighting will peak from the shadow openly over shh style it is, but rest assure the gaming commissions and betting tables will want a cut, then you tube will have a policy change I feel

When I was about 7 years old, my mother (my old technically wasn't an absentee, but not a participant either) signed me up for a summer camp organized by the company she worked for. One day, it may have a weekend during the weeklong stay, we played a soccer game and the other team beat us badly. Like 7 to nil badly, so I threw a tantrum. You don't have to wonder where I'm going with this. Despite what libertarians want to make us believe, who personally never or not really have lived outside their own community, people's thinking in larger groups isn't one of a benevolent green giant, but a tantrum throwing kid, where the role of a chaperon must be filled. So where you see something forced upon you, it very well might just be the inclusion of people previously unheard.

America, the beautiful has a lot of issues, one of them is rarely and barely listening to the other. It's a tactic that only works because they don't share land with others. Similar nations towing that line erupted two world wars. May I remind myself, they did it over the debate whether they should trade or have wars. Spoiler alert, Europe's answer is usually war. Weeks ago I have included a fictional world scenario where Brexit was already finalized and the violence on the Irish island restarted again. Last week, in reality, with not even a signed deal in hand, violence has restarted. I don't study human nature for nothing.

One of the tricks spin doctors want people to believe that this situation now is new. Well, it's not. John Carpenter's ex-wife, who herself was a go-go girl in a mafia bar has heavily campaigned together with her husband to direct and play in stories that are more human centric. For example, the very hot fight in True Lies does not serve the plot and the story could survive without it. In contrast, the fight in Crimson Peak was unavoidable as the antagonist was a deranged killer. Heck, Whip it works as a whole because it shows women deal with everyday issues on the skating rink when they turn frustration into violence. Wanting to hear out those we wish to have portrayed costs us but time.

Which is where Deep Throat comes in. The faux modest and sanctimonious community, in line with "premarital sex is a sin" have successfully banned theaters from Broadway under the true pretense that patrons support child prostitution and hard drugs. Yet some of those theaters have shown Swedish, Austrian, Italian and German movies, comedies, crime fiction with an erotic twist. Like Debbie does Dallas, Deep Throat  also had a plot. In this era, as the example of Caligula shows, following the sexual revolution, mainstream embraced erotic film making and big name stars played in these movies. Should also sound logical since sex is a natural part of life.

A decade later, a very important heated debate happened that split women, and not in a sexual way. The star of Deep Throat has become the key witness of anti-sex feminists (they are the same ones who ganged up with Evangelicals to demand condoms on movie sets in California while filming action). Their goal was to prove that porn is by design exploitation where satisfaction can't be earned, thus should be banned. On the other side, pro-sex women said, lesbians and bisexuals also need agency, therefore lesbian porn is essentially both for satisfaction and representation. It's not easy to make judgment over the former porn star's metoo moment, not because she has become a devout Christian (like, remember, Betty Page too) rather because later on she claim the anti-sex camp used her without compensation. Needless to say, the "compromise" at the time was that educational movies can be erotic, which led to the hilarity, shown in glorious form in the episodes by the Cinema Snob, that sly producers tacked on "educational scenes" between action to sell it, until that loophole was closed.

The second key problem, as I referenced it to fightfanatic is having a narrow view on critical mass. Pentecoastals, Evangelicals, Mormons and Presbyterians have so brutal Old Testament views on sex that they have practically become a state within a state, where a major goal is to push their views on others. This is corroborated by the many laws they sponsor. We otherly or non-believers have smaller victories, like that since 3 weeks ago, New Hampshire no longer allows prepubescent teens to marry way older people. Hell, autocorrect thought I want to write merry. The true horror is how many Americans are oblivious that this is still a real thing, a guy knocks up a kid and to avoid shame, they marry their kid off to him with the judge's consent (in fairness, in 2001 a 27-year old woman married an 11-year old boy).

Yet this is the crowd they have to appease, because religious conservatives are the Borg Collective. This is topped by a group of executives, usually men, who like this setup, for two reasons: one it's mass producible and two, it doesn't need to change. This is why socialism was a social system, not an economic one. It's about "finding the right people" to produce sub par stuff so long your demands are met. No joke, the East German secret service had a porn battalion of about a 100-120 men and women under direction to shoot cheap porn that imitates American productions. It was such a well guarded secret, not even ordinary goons knew about it existed.

That leads me to finally how the "secret honeypot" met the mob. There are certain fetishes, like catfights, where people feel secrecy is part of so strongly that they actually want capping access to it. I worked customer services, I know that Disney's product of princes and princesses work because to the contrary what many openly claim, they like to be pampered, to be treated like royalty. This is why express check-ins and extra legrooms exist. The situation is way more complex than just one villain, and the gaps between our communities is so great that a singular solution is not satisfactory. A solution still needs to be found. This is because the downside of secrecy is that it has a big enough veil to hide wrongdoings, may they be against performers or customers. I support us having a bigger exposure with plot related fights and sex scenes, as even within the fetish community we're often the Appalachians and it is not meant as a compliment.
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« Reply #12 on: January 21, 2019, 03:35:51 PM »
WOW hmm ok well the post was meant to be simple information not turn into a finger pointing debate on who is to blame, here is to hoping you tube finds a better way, if not i won't lose sleep over it, when you take into account the adult channels outthere I am certain one will carry the torch, good luck with al lthe rest here

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« Reply #13 on: January 23, 2019, 03:03:11 PM »
Somehow I am not surprised. Everything has been heading this way, especially in the post FOSTA/SESTA era. Looks like YouTube is the next one to fall in line. We are becoming more and more like China every day with regards to our internet policies. It's scary and sad honestly.

In case you haven't noticed Youtube is a private company. So saying this is like China is a bit whiny no? A private company wishing to reduce the possibility  of criminal charges and civil litigation isn't exactly badthink. You may as well be pissed at a toy company that removes a choking hazard because you like the toy and are aroused by choking.

If I was Youtube I would be crapping my pants every time anyone with significant numbers does a livestream in fear that today is the day they do something stupid and broadcast and actual serious injury or death. All Youtube is doing is trying to show self regulation so that law enforcement/lawmakers don't feel the need to do it for them. And if your main concern is you may indirectly lose some fap material (that really was kind of questionable being there in the first place) consider the alternative. You could lose the whole thing via a lawsuit and/or actual government regulation.

There are any number of gruesome and violent videos on YT, and they seem to hang around longer than the catfight videos. Last year I was browsing female MMA vids, and I found a play list containing plenty, along with many street catfights, mostly from the US. There were also videos of females being stoned and beheaded, shot, stabbed and beaten up by men in the street.. Clearly, the person who compiled that list was into violence against females, rather than female combat.

Checking back a couple weeks later, many of the street fights had been deleted by YT, but the other, more extreme stuff was still there.

I've also noticed that street fights between US black girls don't seem to get deleted. It's the white North American and European girl fights that YT are sensitive about. I'm not accusing them of racism, because I don't know if they are proactive in deleting material, or just react to stuff being flagged by viewers, so make of that what you will.
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Re: You Tube
« Reply #14 on: January 23, 2019, 03:13:13 PM »
But your whole answer is a whole lot of wishy washy hand waving which confirms my suspicions: Your political thought process hasn't gone beyond "Me hate government. " Why don't you engage that nice person Youtube (for they legally are a person ) and ask them why they made their decision.

Lol at you ripping somebody else for being naive then saying that!

Have you ever tried having a conversation with the "person" known as Google?