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The "Catpin" Universe Discussion

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Offline Tiberius J.C.

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Re: The "Catpin" Universe Discussion
« Reply #120 on: May 27, 2022, 12:16:24 AM »
I believe both are acceptable. Though, I am partial to bare ass naked... or as I pronounce it "nekkid"  :)
Do you write for GQ by any chance, Kelli? Look at example 3 from the OED.
1913   Daily Times Enterprise (Thomasville, Georgia) 6 Dec. 1/2   A negro Adam, buck naked and believing himself to be in the Garden of Eden, was tried... After hearing the evidence, the case was turned over to an insanity commission.
1961   E. Hamner Spencer’s Mountain 33   The whole army of little white-headed, buck-naked children.
1993   GQ Feb. 51/2   [He] climbs, buck-nekkid save for hiking boots and a gimme cap, to the top of an escarpment.
2004   J. Jameson & N. Strauss How to make Love like Porn Star v. v. 441   When I walked around the set buck naked.., the production assistants kept trying to wrap me in a robe.
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I'd never heard of anyone pronouncing it "nekkid". Now twice in one day. Surely too much of a coincidence to be a coincidence.
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That was "buck" Now "butt"
butt-naked adj. colloquial (originally and chiefly North American) completely naked, stark naked.
[1959   A. M. Stein Never need Enemy vii. 90   Leaping out to confront her bare-butt naked might lead to misunderstandings.]
1968   M. Van Peebles Bear for FBI vi. 66   You read a National Geographic and there is some far off native girl standing butt-naked for the cameraman.
1976   Baytown (Texas) Sun 3 Nov. 13 a/2   Even if he's butt naked, he's still a police officer.
2011   M. Roffey With Kisses of his Mouth 164   One man, an ex-actor, decided to moonwalk backwards across the circle, butt-naked.
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So both are correct but I think you two should discuss this and agree beforehand whether you're going to strip Tori and Amber (or Charlotte and Cynthia or Jolene and Paige - there are so many sisters to choose from) "buck-naked" or "butt-naked". Any confusion or indecision at the crucial moment,could,  as I think you've each found to your cost on other occasions, lead to tears, embarrassment and (the horror!) exposure.

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Re: The "Catpin" Universe Discussion
« Reply #121 on: June 29, 2022, 03:01:18 PM »
After binge reading both the FFJ and KFJ pages (as well as the Catfight Chronicles stories) over the last week, I don’t mind throwing a few ideas out.  Things have been kind of slow with both women working on other projects.   I’ll start with Kiva’s story.

Kiva, your character probably feels like she hates men right now.   She doesn’t and shouldn’t, but she has had awful luck in which men have wound up in her life.   Tom (I think) does love you, but he is a two-time loser in the untrustworthy category.   He has a bad case of “cat scratch fever”, an obsession with women catfighting that takes control of his decisions.   (This term is a nod not to the actual disease or the song, but to the epic catfight novella Cat Scratch Fever written by the legendary Raven in the 1990s.)  The other men in her orbit are either unavailable or are pure scumbags (like Frank and Billy).  We don't see any other major male characters in the hospital to point her toward.

There are thus only a few ways to go now for Kiva.   If you decide to continue the series, one idea might be for your character to swear off men for a while, focus on your vocation, have some fun with some of your girlfriends and have the occasional catpin fight out in the world.   Find a new worthy rival at the hospital, and let's see them battle it out for a pecking order at work.  Otherwise, let time pass and see what the future brings.   But at some point Kiva has to either find a way to forgive and reconcile with Tom (a very hard prospect), try to go it alone as a single mom with a stressful and demanding job, or by chance find a new man to introduce to the story that would allow Kiva to maintain the precarious balance in her life.  Kiva thought Frank was that guy, but Kiva from the earlier part of the stories could have warned her otherwise.  Finally, Tom’s last text to Kiva, “I want to fight for you”, obviously has double meaning.   Tom says not only that he wants to metaphorically fight for Kiva’s love, but maybe physically as well.  Would it take Tom physically fighting for her against another man, then losing and being embarrassed the same way she was by Cynthia, for her to forgive Tom?  As harsh as it sounds, this last idea may be the only way Tom can somewhat understand the depths of Kiva’s emotional pain and thus create some sort of bridge of understanding between their characters.

I know Kiva (the writer) has taken some time away from this series to do other great stories (most recently the eloquent and poignant “Requiem”), but the last chapter of the Journal left us with a cliffhanger.  Will she reconcile with Tom or not?    What else will happen?   Tune in sometime later this year, when we get another exciting episode of “As the Kiva Turns”!    In all seriousness, Kiva, take your time, do the writing you want to do, do it with your usual brilliance, and come back to this story when you are ready. 

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« Reply #122 on: June 30, 2022, 04:53:05 AM »
I know it's not everyone's cup of tea, but I posted a new MvsM story in that section. It takes place after the Cynthia fight and catches the MvsM series up with Fyre's Fight Journal... meaning... you guessed it! There may be some couples fights on the horizon.

Also, it introduces a new and interesting (to me) couple. Samuel and Anastasia.... Anastasia and I have trouble getting along. I wonder what that could mean?


And last but certainly not least, thanks to many of you for your feedback. It has been a busy time around the Fyrecracka house, but I am getting closer and closer to a few new catfight  stories for FFJ ... and even one from the point of view of one of the more mysterious and popular characters from earlier in the series in the Catpin Chronicles.

As always, feel free to comment, speculate, bloviate, critique and flatter me (as well as drop ideas and desires) here, via PM, trillian, mental telepathy, or other means. :)
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Re: The "Catpin" Universe Discussion
« Reply #123 on: June 30, 2022, 11:58:52 AM »
Coachzzz,
Thank you for sharing your insight and ideas for KFJ. I think I can also speak for Kelli when I say we are always thrilled when readers share their thoughts and love to hear ideas. You really hit the nail on the head with the current state of the storyline. The next chapter is in process. Without giving too much away, I can say that there will be a major development in the relationship with Tom, but not necessarily a full resolution,so there will be plenty of flexibility for the storyline to go in many possible directions. As always, I’m open to suggestions of what readers would like to see. Your posts are much appreciated.

Kelli,
Your last MvsM story is hysterical. For anyone not familiar with Kelli’s MvsM thread (see her post above), her male fight stories are intense, brutal, erotic, and contain some of the most creative descriptions of male genitalia ever seen in the English language.  ;D
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« Reply #124 on: June 30, 2022, 06:51:14 PM »
Kelli--some rambling thoughts about FyreCracka’s Fight Journal and where you go from here.

My favorite chapters of yours have been the ones with Natalie and Cynthia (chapters 26 and 38).   The fights were the sensational, imaginative, long, brutal, back and forth battles you always give us, but there was much more than that.  Both of the chapters have a backstory going back to your days in high school.   Let’s look at Natalie first.   After almost 20 years, she still came to the reunion targeting you for a fight, after hearing about one of your fights at Billy’s.   Why?   Is it just simply female jealousy—the “I can still take her—I’m still better than her” attitude?   That is part of it for certain, but there may be something else.  Picture this.  She appears to have been very ambitious as a young coach, maybe wanting to move up the coaching ladder to a big college job.  Her ticket to that goal would have been (a) producing high level recruits for colleges and (b) winning some state championships.   She has her two best teams, but they get knocked out in the quarter-finals, and she looks at you as the cause.   You weren’t as good as she was (or as good as Charlotte Powers was, in her eyes) and thus you were the supposed reason (in her warped mind) the team lost.  That’s why she didn’t pass on the partial scholarship offers to you—in her mind you didn’t deserve them, because you cost her the opportunities she wanted.   So you and Natalie will be forever enemies, because you both think the other cost each of you something you think you each truly deserved.    The fight itself against Natalie was a tense, massive war of attrition that was glorious to read.  You now respect each other’s fighting abilities, but your feud is nowhere near over.

As for Cynthia, your battle with her was equally loaded with backstory, and the fight that starts in the elevator, goes through the loading dock and into the dumpster is an all-time great fight scene.  (I also loved Kiva’s add-on scene of you and Jake telling her the news).   I think you are probably done with specific fights with her (unless Josh’s income would qualify her for the Palace or you create a 2 on 2 fight with you and Kiva vs. Cynthia and Charlotte, but Kiva has enough on her plate right now with her character’s issues, so this isn’t the time for that).   But Charlotte is a must grudge fight in the main FFJ timeline.   (Yes, I read “The Rivals”, and your story of what would have happened if you ran into Charlotte later that night after the basketball game was fantastic.  But that did not happen in the main timeline, so it doesn’t count here.)    She still hates you from back in your high school days, and you beating Cynthia will give her an extra reason to come calling on you.  Your clash with Cynthia, as well as your recent clash with Natalie, has brought your latent hatred of Charlotte into the front of your mind.   Outside of the epic fight that you will have with Jolene at some future date, a big fight with Charlotte is my most anticipated coming attraction.
   
Moving on, after your narrow losses to Jolene (Billy’s champ) and the world-famous catfighter Anna the Marine Chick, Billy will not let you go up the card to face Jolene any time soon.  You already have a new outlet (Ms. Jones’ Palace) and your character gets in way more outside fights anyway.   You have more than enough women already in your orbit to have rematches with (Jaymie, Natalie, the Doshi sisters, Lily, Miche, Cynthia, etc.), and much more variety of locations and scenarios to bring new women in.   As for Jolene, there must be a final battle as an end to your epic rivalry.   Rather than it be at Billy’s, where I think it would be considered Jolene’s home turf (with the potential of Billy cheating in some way), I would rather your final fight with her to be private, with only you, her and your respective seconds there for the occasion.  The title that Jolene has matters little at this point, since Billy controls the matchups there.   Meanwhile, if Jolene were to win, she would just simply try to bed Jake once or twice and then throw him away like a used paper napkin.   Besides, Jake would ultimately be loyal to you under any scenario.  No, this final fight is about “the championship of each other” and should be privately fought, one round to a final submission.   It should be long, brutal, epic, back and forth, and ultimately triumphant for you.

As a side note, the term I used above, “the championship of each other” is not original by me.   It comes from nearly 50 years ago.   When Muhammed Ail and Joe Frazier had their 3rd fight, the so-called “Thrilla in Manilla”, somewhere I read that a scribe back then (I don’t know who) described the fight as being for “the championship of each other”, a final test to ultimately let history declare who of the two of them was better.   I view Kelli and Jolene’s rivalry in the same light.

As for other ideas, rematches with Lily, Miche and Jaymie are musts.  Lily has a righteous vendetta against you and deserves another shot at you in private.   Just because both you and Lily wound up respectively with the right guy for each of you (as Michael notes in your excellent Chronicles story), doesn’t mean she is over what happened back then.  Your fight with Miche was excellent, but it was one of your early losses and your character is much more experienced now.  Finally, Jaymie and you need another showdown.   She needs someone to take her down a peg, and I don’t think Allie is the person who has the ability or mindset to do it.    Meanwhile, the Palace beckons with potential new matchups and ideas.   Kelli can go on a bit of a winning streak, gain some new contacts (especially the women she defeats) and eventually come up against a suitable foe to battle in a high-stakes feud.  This would transition her out of Billy’s place (and out of Jolene’s orbit after their epic finale) and into a new but similar environment of women to fight.   So my wish list would be the epic finale with Jolene, a new battle with Charlotte, a revenge fight with Jaymie, rematches with Lily and Natalie, and a focus on fights at the Palace, as you ascend the ranks there and hopefully find a worthy rival there that would allow for a multi-fight story arc. 

Kelli, again I must complement both you and your husband for crafting a series of vivid, innovative, competitive and brutal fight scenes, and I express my admiration to you for how you show the motives and emotions of the battles and for creating a very enjoyable world.    Thank you for your contributions, and I look forward to whatever you decide to do with your character in the future.

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Re: The "Catpin" Universe Discussion
« Reply #125 on: July 02, 2022, 05:00:53 AM »
I didn’t think Tom had done enough to not be forgiven or at least a real chance to explain. If I remember correctly it was Kiva’s first loss which would be something new for him to process as well. It wasn’t like a one sided fight as either could have won at any point it just went Cynthia’s way. It’s understandable that he found it to be a turn on as admittedly Cynthia was definitely a hot number. The fact that seeing Kiva lose doesn’t mean he wanted Cynthia over Kiva. Now the issue he shared it online is obviously a different problem if that’s something neither had done before and he chose to show the loss. There’s still more to that story without a doubt and I’m sure Kiva will as always make the next chapters most enjoyable and surprising as always. Maybe a rematch with Cynthia and who knows which direction that may go. I for one know it’ll definitely be well done and looking forward to it when it’s done. Still like the thought of Kelli’s husband having a new partner assigned at work who begins a new rival for Kelli like Kim was. A rival over an intimate mate who is able to go back and forth adds so much emotion for all involved it can become an obsession. The high of winning and low of losing makes the relationship between the two rivals intimate. A love hate that neither wants to admit the love or respect of it. Would make sense that being in law enforcement a female definitely would be able to handle herself and could be a rival Kelli may have to up her training and workouts to compete with on another level. Or maybe Kim shows up again at some point. Look forward to all the chapters of whichever series as well.

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Re: The "Catpin" Universe Discussion
« Reply #126 on: July 24, 2022, 04:35:31 PM »
There are many of Kelli and Kiva's fans out here who are waiting for new installments of their excellent respective series.   But real life sometimes causes some of our favorite authors to devote time elsewhere and not to the stories on this board.    We have been spoiled by the quantity and quality of these series, that it feels a little empty without them.  Things have gotten a little slow lately, with several authors not being able to post anything in a while.    Anyway, I expect they will be back sometime in the future, just not right away.. 

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« Reply #127 on: July 24, 2022, 06:00:09 PM »
Are we going to see more developments in the catpin universe?

Yes. I realize sometimes it takes us several weeks between stories due to life’s commitments. This time, I took a break from the catpin universe and posted an unrelated story about two moms wrestling in a backyard called, “Wating At The Door” (Wrestling board). But I am back again, getting into catpin trouble. I know Kelli is cooking up new stories as well. Thanks for reading!  :)



Am I the only person who is hoping for a continuation of the catpin stories?

There are many of Kelli and Kiva's fans out here who are waiting for new installments of their excellent respective series.   But real life sometimes causes some of our favorite authors to devote time elsewhere and not to the stories on this board.    We have been spoiled by the quantity and quality of these series, that it feels a little empty without them.  Things have gotten a little slow lately, with several authors not being able to post anything in a while.    Anyway, I expect they will be back sometime in the future, just not right away.. 

I know that I am still working on several new stories and I'm pretty sure that kiva has some new stuff in the works.

For those of you who don't know, I usually work on several stories at once and when one "takes off", I go full speed with it. Right now, I have a couple competing still. As of now, you've got the opportunity for another fight at the Valkyrie's Palace, the Jolene rematch, a random catpin encounter (that may end up having the first "couple's match", the MvsM part taking place in the MvsM series), and the introduction of new, previously introduced part of the catpin world that has several returning characters.

I also have a couple of side projects (a pro style series with several FFJ characters playing roles, the Rivals series with Charlotte... plus it's summer, we have a new puppy, etc... lol
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« Reply #128 on: July 24, 2022, 06:37:56 PM »
@ Easylove,

No links for the stuff I'm working on, but I do have links for all of my stuff in my profile. Any thing in particular that I can point you towards?
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« Reply #129 on: July 24, 2022, 07:37:15 PM »
@ Easylove,

No links for the stuff I'm working on, but I do have links for all of my stuff in my profile. Any thing in particular that I can point you towards?

Absolutely the Jolene rematch, can't seem to find it
I'm still working on it.  :)
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Re: The "Catpin" Universe Discussion
« Reply #130 on: September 03, 2022, 01:55:20 PM »
Kiva’s Fight Journal Chapter 13 is finally up. I’d like to thank everyone for your messages wondering where I disappeared to. I originally planned an immediate follow up to chapter 12, but made a change of plans. I think the new chapter fits in well.

The first half of this chapter is a character study of a previous adversary. In the second half, two old foes resurface and old scores are settled…or are they?  Thanks for reading!
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« Reply #131 on: September 19, 2022, 05:53:02 PM »
And after way too long, Chapter 39 is posted. A nice walk through the neighborhood results in finding an aggressive couple and chaos ensues! Looks like I'm in for a tough fight against a strong rival.

Also, everyone should also check out the Catpin Anthology by Bigfan877 if you haven't already. It's a fun venture into the Catpin universe from a different perspective- and it's really well done.
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Offline Tiberius J.C.

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Re: The "Catpin" Universe Discussion
« Reply #132 on: September 21, 2022, 02:12:00 PM »

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« Reply #133 on: September 22, 2022, 03:53:08 AM »
Hello all,

 I just found this thread, Thanks to Fyrecracka and Kiva for the help they've given me and allowing me to join them in The "Catpin" Universe. I called mine Catpin Anthology with the idea that anyone could do one off stories and post them there too. While I plan to keep the story I started going, I may write one off encounters for that too. Also I plan to do another Catpin Chronicles when Lady Lonestar or Kiva's alter-ego appears.


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Re: The "Catpin" Universe Discussion
« Reply #134 on: September 23, 2022, 02:40:23 AM »
This thing is really taking off! As well as the pin itself, there's the Catpin app, the web site, of course, the bar, the Anthology, the Universe (which is a lot of different things really) and now … (drumroll) … a line of clothing! Check out Kiva's awesome t-shirt collection with all your favo(u)rites: Fyrecracka, Paula, Candace, Cynthia and even the lady herself!
(Hope the link works - if not, it's page 2 of her profile pictures):
https://www.freecatfights.com/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=62172;area=pictures;album=0;start=10
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